I couldn't possibly have said it any better than diamond blue
Shell
the reason why i ask is because whenever u are df and u are trying to get reinstated they are always tellling u that u have to produce fruits befitting repentenace like attending the meetings,etc.
they always make it seem that since they are gods spirit-directed org.
that he will know whether or not if a person is repentent.
I couldn't possibly have said it any better than diamond blue
Shell
could they have learned something from lurking on jwd and decided to dismantle little by little?
i mean, no bookstudy, possibly less hours for regular pioneers and now the possibility of doing away with the co...sure sounds like a fade to me... are they hoping the r&f won't notice???.
changeling :).
I HOPE SO
someone had started a thread about a comment their mother made - "i would rather my children be dead then disfellowshipped" and it reminded me of a comment my father made when i disassociated myself:.
"...don't disassociate yourself - simply don't go to meetings or go out witnessing...it will make it so much easier for you to come back..".
it disturbs me on two levels:.
Mum begged me. 'Please, don't disassociate yourself. Let them disfellowship you instead.'
As I've said before; I'd walked the plank and I was going to either jump or be pushed, and I'd be damned if those uneducated morons with my families blood on thier hand were gonna give me a shove.
So I walked away with any dignity I had left in tact.
Mum's never spoken to me since
Sad
Shell
i couldn't find my earlier post, so .... here i am wearing my t-shirt:.
get yours today!.
http://www.cafepress.com/xjwtees.
Brilliant, I'll be putting in an order
Shell
i woke up this morning with such a bad headache and facial pain and i felt pretty crappy (i am pretty sure it is sinus related - i seem to get a sinus infection at least every 6 weeks or so).. all was going fine until my little boy climbed onto my bed to put his shoes on and emptied a pile of sand from yesterdays escapades in the sandpit) onto my clean sheets.
well that was the end of my holding my temper - from then on, everything that he or his sister did was wrong and i just shouted and shouted.
he couldn't find his shoes - i shouted at that.
You are not a bad mum.
((hug)), you were having a bad start to the day, thats all.
I would challenge any other mother who states that she's never done the old 'schizt out' thing on occasions. And you made it right with your little lad when he came home didn't you?
Any hows, the sock thing... I've got four children and several years ago, decided the easiest way to solve the odd sock dilema was to buy ONLY plain socks in the same colours.
I know thats a bit boring, but it worked a treat and they never went to school in odd scoks again!
((((()))) it'll be reet
Shell
i'll start - sir walter 2 wee dutch dickski 1. all goals scored from open play in normal time.. any advance?.
I predict my home city being over run with kilt wearing rangers fans!
God, I wish I owned a burger van or summat, could make a fortune this week!
Shell
(HOPE RANGERS WIN)
a tribute to a wonderful woman, who is all our "granny"!!.
we love you grace!
have a wonderful mother's day!!.
Have a beautiful day. I hope the sun shines for you.
Shell
it doesn't happen to me much but when it does i can't get enough.... i was driving home from a friends house trying to figure out how to work out my finances/home/college/kids and then the song "eye of the tiger" came on.. i've heard this song many times.
this was one of my fave's growing up but it didn't catch my soul like it did tonight.
i was in awe to the point of needing to hear it 6 times already.
Don't know whther I would call this a pulling your soul in one, but a song that put a great big smile on my face just after I da'sd last year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxgLiNGBvI
Its my 'time to move forward' song
Shell69
i guess its time to throw my little story out there.
i keep reading everyones stories and thinking how brave you have all been, coming out of the organisation and facing all the repercussions of doing so.. .
i only last august disassociated myself.
Welcome to JWD st8! (hugs)
You'll find no end of people who have all suffered mental anxiety at the hands of the borg, because we are humans (yes beautiful ones.. I know), but human none the less.
I have a similar experience, I da'sd about 15 month ago. Shortly before I did this by then 16 year old daughter 'came out' to me. Her coming out wasn't the reason I da'sd, but now I sometimes wonder what on earth would have happened if My husband and I we still 'in'.
Would I have rejected my daughter?, I'd like to think not, but then all of us here on this baord know what the reality could have been. OR would she have lived a lie and played up the heterosexual part she would have been expected to?
It really doesnt bear thinking about. As it is, I love my girl unconditionally, she's a beautifull bright bubbly happy young woman, and whatever the future brings, I love her no matter what.
The hope that you must have is that over time your family either accept your way of life, and stop judging you or else they finally see the WTBTS for what it really is. In the mean time, please just get on with your own life, which you certainly seem to be doing, and enjoy every new day and every new and wonderfull experience. Life outside the borg isn't nearly as scarey as they always told us!!!
Shell69
i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.
i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!
she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .
Purely MHO, but if your returning to the same congregation or even a local one; and in your curcumstances with a few children. a baby I would say that the elders are most certainly going to want to have a chat.
They will be considering the influnece your lifestyle may have upon other sisters particularly the young ones..... They cannot allow the impression that its okay to go off, have a worldy life, have a few kiddies and return like the prodigal son... and nothing be said about it.
But good luck to you if thats what you want.
Shell