If theyre reading here, then we have the chance to open their eyes.
They would be unless they were curious/ or or spy's for big brother.
Either way. we're winners because we're free!
Shell69
obviously some of you were , but some topics i notice get huge amouts of folk reading them but not replying , i think that had i had internet access years ago and read some of these threads i wouldnt have lasted another week at kingdom hall , and yet i still imagine going to sit in the hall during a meeting so i could see what its like listening to a talk without a programmed mind and knowing that its a sign of a cult if your friends and family warn you its a cult but the cult tells you its just satan trying to get you out "the truth"!
If theyre reading here, then we have the chance to open their eyes.
They would be unless they were curious/ or or spy's for big brother.
Either way. we're winners because we're free!
Shell69
as long as i can recall, i have always had at least three craft or needlework "projects" going at one time!
i have had a few "unproductive years" due to two strokes that affected my right side and the use of my fingers.
i tried a few things and then put them down in desperation.. recently i picked up a crochet hook again determined to figure out a way to get things working again.....and it is slow and very awkward but i can still crochet!.
DJK
I want to grow some flowers/ herbs.
But I always seem to kill everything I try to grow. I think it'd be good for me. Any advice?
Much love Shell69
it has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
DAWG;
HAVE A POSTER ON THE WALL OF MY OFFICE;
I'M NOT THE MESSIAH, I'M A VERY NAUGHTY BOY!
Shell69
it has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
what fantastic news.
the lemmings can't bother you anymore!
Celebrate!
Shell69
as long as i can recall, i have always had at least three craft or needlework "projects" going at one time!
i have had a few "unproductive years" due to two strokes that affected my right side and the use of my fingers.
i tried a few things and then put them down in desperation.. recently i picked up a crochet hook again determined to figure out a way to get things working again.....and it is slow and very awkward but i can still crochet!.
I HATE WINTER AND AUTUMN.
I drink too much.
Another reason to hate myself.
Shell69
a jw should earnestly try to prove to themselves (in hopes they can't and will wake the fluck up).. per fifi40: i think i need to compile a list of information and facts that disprove the jw religion and its teachings, for any jw or any considering becoming one, to be able to check for themselves before committing themselves any further to this religion.
so if you have any thoughts please would you add these.
if there is one on the board could someone please point me in the right direction.. not that this should be as funny as dave, but maybe a short list such has his would have appeal....of course a few wt or secular references to support the point may be nice too.
why does a little girl age of 8 through 10, need to KNOW that she should have TWO witnesess to her childhood abuse??
WHY SHOULD SHE HAVE TO KNOW THIS?
SOOOOOO sorry Ooompa, if I've gone off at a tangent to your initial question. ((((((:-()
Shell69
but i am thinking of going to church,,,,a rather large one,,,over 1000, chwk alliance church, i think i can hide quite well in a cong.
that big.
have a spiritual need, but so hate organized religion,,so i am so confused,,yet i use to love studying the bible,,,,dont ask me why.
Wendy, The programing that we all had within the religion can make it so hard to move on.
In my VERY humble opinion, you'll only find satisfaction to you inner spiritual need, by looking inside yourself. Although I respectfully accept that for some people this would mean being part of some kind of organised religion, that isn't alway nesecary. You can achieve peace with god, Spirit, whatever you would call it, when you are totally happy with yourself.
Sincere regards to you. I hope it all works out.
Shell69
i was when i had an affair , but this elders pioneer daughter told me she understood why i had done it , i was feeling dreadfull and so guilt ridden but he said i should through myself at my hubs feet and beg forgiveness from him and had i lived 2000 years ago i would have been stoned to death !
the strange thing is a few years later this elder told me he had feelings for me , but he was married and old enough to be my dad , although i liked him as a person by then and had forgotten what he had said to me about being stoned to death, i was a bit annoyed that he told me not to tell anyone ,and yet was telling other people to tattle tale on others , i know he felt really bad about his feelings though and i did feel sorry for him , but asked him not to visit anymore as it made me feel guilty towards his wife , maybe it was gods way of getting him to see things from a wrong doers point of view ,as he had a reputation for being very harsh on wrong doers (like myself) maybe he makes a better elder nowadays after that insight , or maybe they think i was sent by satan to seduce a pioneer and an elder !
This is yet another shining example of these so called god appointed 'elders' treating the flock in horendous ways.
How dare they tell people.,.... 'women' they would have been stoned to death?
We're not 2000 years ago are we? they can't touch you, and the only power they actually have is the power that we 'allowed' them to have over us because we were brain washed. Thank goodness for the internet and the wonderfull support networks (JWD) on it.
Sorry, just venting coz this made me so mad!
Shell69
i have just spent the last 4 hours reading many various posts and finally built up the courage to register and share my experiences.
i am only 20 years old, but my young age should not overlook my intelligence as an observing individual.
i was born into the religion of the jehova's witnesses.
a heart felt welcome to both of you.
Have been a memeber here for just over a year, and finf myself a reader... more that a poster.
But you'll find like mided people here, we've all been through the same tings to a more or less degree.
peace XX Shell
i've been with someone for over ten years.
sounds like a long time to be engaged, but we were perfectly happy with the arrangement, knowing that some of the circumstances in each of our lives needed to be worked out before we could marry.
one day she told me that she wanted to investigate the jws.
Sp Awfull to read this, you obviously love this young lady. But, Beware. This organization will do whatever is takes to controll her mind, and if that meant separating her from her beloved, her mum, her dad, her daughter or her siblings....... they don't care!
Jehovah, the invisible god, who will take care of all her needs, is all she needs to know.!
Do everything within your power to save her. But if she doesnt want to listen, if she's too far down the line, then let her be for a while.
She'll know you love her unconditionally. This is not something that she'll EVER experience insinde the organisation. She may be back in your arms before you know it!
Good Luck, and blessed be.
Shell69