ARMAGEDDON HAS BEEN CANCELLED!!!
Actually, Armageddon has been cancelled due to disasterous head on collision with reality.
...apparently armageddon is not expected before january 2009. otherwise, there'd be no need to plan the change in the bible study so far in advance.
ARMAGEDDON HAS BEEN CANCELLED!!!
Actually, Armageddon has been cancelled due to disasterous head on collision with reality.
i havn't been able to keep up with all the discussion in this forum as to why the gb has suddenly decided to implement these changes and perhaps someone has mentioned this already, but to me the most obvious reason has nothing to do with control, or money.
it has everything to do with the serious shortage of qualified brothers who can (or who are willing to) be used.
i have been involved in the organzation for 40 yrs and i have never seen the level of apathy and disillusionment among those serving in some capacity in this organization.
Hi Bud (welcome to the board) and Hi to everyone else,
I agree with all of the comments about the morale problems.
Servant burnout was bad when I left (1997), so I can't even imagine how much worse it must be now. I was the TMS conductor for a couple of years and I used to spend about 6 to 8 hours a week preparing for it so that the quality of the meeting would be high. But, with all of my other responsibilities it really got to be burdensome.
I would also point out that, in the past, the servants who did research and studied deeply and broadly were assets to the congregation and the quality of the meetings. Now, the servants who do extra research and study are likely to be the ones who see the BORG's company line for the farce that it is. Rather ironic, isn't it.....?
Additionally, in private conversations when people had their guard down, I personally heard many comments from elders, pioneers and other old timers lamenting that they had fully well expected to be in the new system by then. That disappointment coupled with the generation debacle has to have been devastating to many Dubs.
The quality of the publications today is a far cry from the deep, scriptural analysis (right or wrong) of books like the Babylon book, the Finished Mystery book (the 1970s pub.), Your Will Be Done on Earth, and the Nations Shall Know book. If you were a believer in the Bible those publications could send a chill up your spine with their discussions of the future. All of that is gone. The publications today would barely elicit a yawn.
The whole Dub movement has become a rather shallow belief system in which robotic motions work just fine. The fire and zeal of the days past is gone.
That's fine with me. I am glad I am out--just wish some of my old friends would jump ship.
Cheers to all,
Alex
i want to live my next life backwards.
you start out dead and get that out of the way.
then you wake up in an old age home feeling better every day.
ROTFLMAO
That was phunny!!! I joke that I am living life backwards because I went back to school when I was 42--but you've got my version beat.
Cheers,
Alex
Mr. Majestic,
Since you are in the U.K. you should take great pride in Simon Winchester's book "The Map That Changed the World."
And, if you haven't read it you really need to. It is a fascinating account about how William "Strata" Smith deciphered the geologic record using sedimentary layers and fossils.
Cheers,
Alex
Rather curiously, the 1961 edition of the New World Translation (with the distintive bright green cover), had end leaf maps bound into the front and back of the Bible. The one in the front was of the Middle East / Mediterranean area and it had little artist's renditions of some of the events associated with places on the map (e.g., I think there was smoke and Moses on Mt. Sinai). There were a few dinosaurs randomly place throughout the map, from which one could draw the reasonable inference that humans and dinos co-existed at some point in time.
However, as far as I know (and I really searched when I was a Dub), they have never definitively stated whether or not humans and dinosaurs co-existed. I do remember reading something to the effect that the dinosaurs may have become extinct by the time Adam and Eve were created, but that they were unsure and the dinos could have died in the flood.
In any event, the Dubs are dogged by the same problems as the young earth creationists with respect to the geologic evidence that life has been here on Earth for a very, very long time.
One of the key pieces of evidence for an asteroid impact causing the dino die-off is the iridium layer that is coincident with the stratigraphic (time / sediment) layer in which the dinos disappeared. Radiometric dating of the stratigraphic layers runs headlong into Dub dogma about the age of life on earth and other pesky scientific observations that seem to get in the way of a good fairy tale.
This is one of those issues that they gloss over rather irresponsibly in the Creation Book and other publications.
Don't know if that helps but hope it sheds a little light on things.
Cheers,
Alex
one young, zealous brother was thrilled about it!
"they (meaning the gov.
body) know something's going to happen, or they wouldn't be doing this!
What a load of ....
I agree with some of the other posters on other related threads that this is a maneuver by the GB to rein in the free thinkers who might get away with saying something at the BS.
The larger the group the less likely individuals are going to want to appear different or out of step.
Thanks for the post.
Cheers to all,
Alex
...we surrender that which makes us human.
--- a buddhist proverb (that i saw recently and thought extremely appropriate to current world events).. the world has really gone crazy (especially america) because now we are feeding grain to the machines and the price of food is going through the roof.. the hype about ethanol solving our fuel problems is one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the public and they are swallowing it as fast they are consuming gasoline.. no one in a serious policy making capacity has thought this through, or if they have they are sweeping the facts under the rug.
it takes an enormous amount of resources to produce the corn necessary to make ethanol, not the least of which is water.
Chickpea,
Thanks for the link.
Alex
i don't believe in fate or astrology and stuff like that but once in a wile weird things do append.. i will explain.
i speak french and english, i have scottish, english, native american and french blood.
i'm into martial arts and i love asian culture especially japanese, i would love to learn how to speak japanese.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
It's that kind of stuff that keeps me from going all the way to the 100% atheist end of the spectrum. I remain stuck at about 98.5% so I call myself an agonostic.
There is definitely something going on in some other space/time dimension that we don't fully understand.
Cool story. Thanks.
Cheers,
Alex
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FSM is the BEST at lampooning the fallacious arguments of the fundies.
Cheers,
Alex
...we surrender that which makes us human.
--- a buddhist proverb (that i saw recently and thought extremely appropriate to current world events).. the world has really gone crazy (especially america) because now we are feeding grain to the machines and the price of food is going through the roof.. the hype about ethanol solving our fuel problems is one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the public and they are swallowing it as fast they are consuming gasoline.. no one in a serious policy making capacity has thought this through, or if they have they are sweeping the facts under the rug.
it takes an enormous amount of resources to produce the corn necessary to make ethanol, not the least of which is water.
From what I have read, Dinah, the farmers are still getting the benefits of the subsidies while production is also ramping up.
It is a very complicated Congressional policy that is difficult for experts to navigate.
In the end it is still madness on a collosal scale.