I used to sing that song from The Sound of Music--"somewhere in my youth or childhood I must have done something...BAD!!!" My life went downhill in such a huge way after my baptism. I can relate to Maddie with the constant asking for Jehovah to help and being ignored...I put myself in a position where I sacrificed to get "blessings", but when I left everything fell into place perfectly. Apparently selling your soul to Satan really pays off. Sarcasm. I used to hate it when people would remark about people who were miserable in the congregation and tell them "sometimes the answer to our prayers is NO." Like White Dove said, what kind of a creepy god listens to you beg and beg for years then says no? If god is rewarding me now with a happy life, he must have been punishing me then, but I can't remember doing anything worth that kind of treatment so...maybe god (the universe) helps those who help themselves.
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Did You Feel That Jehovah Blessed or Punished You?
by minimus inwere you one of those witnesses that believed anything good that happened was because jehovah god was blessing you and when something bad happened, it was evidence of "no blessings"??
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Were you pressured into marrying/having children young?
by breakingfree inthis is probably something women in the organisation experience more than men.
even though we were instructed from the platform to use our youth to go pioneering, the older sisters in the congregation always seemed to be pushing younger women to marry and have children so they would be 'happy' like them .
when i got married (far too young, lucky it worked out) there was instant teasing, encouragement, etc to procreate.
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In the part of the country where I live, finding a marriage partner IMMEDIATELY after baptism was pushed and this is what happened to me. Two months after baptism I was set to be married, I pushed the date till three months later, told the brother 10 times or more how I didn't want to be married, told this to sisters, the to-be in-laws...everybody had a lame scriptural reason why I could never turn back once I said yes. Such as: let your yes mean yes, two are better than one, if you were an Isrealite girl and broke your engagement you would be killed, it's too late now, there are too many young people dating and breaking their engagements and this has got to stop right now...I was the virgin pushed into the volcano and stayed in there for 17 years trapped thinking, of course, that I was all alone in this weird situation. Just made the best of it. Made SURE I would never get pregnant.
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Were you pressured into marrying/having children young?
by breakingfree inthis is probably something women in the organisation experience more than men.
even though we were instructed from the platform to use our youth to go pioneering, the older sisters in the congregation always seemed to be pushing younger women to marry and have children so they would be 'happy' like them .
when i got married (far too young, lucky it worked out) there was instant teasing, encouragement, etc to procreate.
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In the part of the country where I live, finding a marriage partner IMMEDIATELY after baptism was pushed and this is what happened to me. Two months after baptism I was set to be married, I pushed the date till three months later, told the brother 10 times or more how I didn't want to be married, told this to sisters, the to-be in-laws...everybody had a lame scriptural reason why I could never turn back once I said yes. Such as: let your yes mean yes, two are better than one, if you were an Isrealite girl and broke your engagement you would be killed, it's too late now, there are too many young people dating and breaking their engagements and this has got to stop right now...I was the virgin pushed into the volcano and stayed in there for 17 years trapped thinking, of course, that I was all alone in this weird situation. Just made the best of it. Made SURE I would never get pregnant. Sorry I can't delete this!!!
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Chandelier at Patterson from the Lusitania?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inhttp://members.shaw.ca/tt3/p/p.htm"if you happen to get him as your guide ask him to tell you about the remarkable story of the chandelier in patterson that came from the lusitania and has buoyant crystals.".
can anyone confirm this is true or not?
would an item like this and from this moment in history be just a tiny bit expensive???.
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I took a look around at the expense and time it took to get just small items off of this ship...it was actualy auctioned at one point in 1967 and any valuable items were to belong to the Irish government. A man named Bemis had all kinds of problems getting an oportunity to go look at the ship and finally, in 1982, there was a salvage done with small items brought up. A pillow that was floating in the water with dead bodies is a big deal, so the idea of a chandelier being bought...I just don't think so. Next summer there will be another salvage of this ship. I wish I knew for sure, but...who knows.
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A question about Patterson complex
by Motema Bolingo inaccording what i understand, this picture is a miniature model of patterson complex.. .
somebody tells me that it is a real photo of the buildings .. what do you think ?.
thanks for help.
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There were some small items brought up in 1982 and next summer the owner will do another salvage operation...they made a big deal out of a pillow that was salvaged, so you would think there would be mention of a chandelier...and WHY would this man who has spent millions and decades to get this stuff sell it to the WT? Bells are, once again, going off.
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A question about Patterson complex
by Motema Bolingo inaccording what i understand, this picture is a miniature model of patterson complex.. .
somebody tells me that it is a real photo of the buildings .. what do you think ?.
thanks for help.
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Chandelier from the Lusitania...I am looking into this.
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Songs that reflect the tower
by jacethespace inwhat is everyones favourite song that best describes there experience in the tower and their exit form it?.
this is mine http://http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3744443266557702508&q=pink+floyd+brick+in+the+wall&total=2005&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
when i heard the lyrics to this i thought it resembled my experience then when veiwing the vid i thought it definatly did.warning some of the vid might be a bit overthetop.. this is the sort of song i would love to turn up loud in the car and walk out of a meeting with the elders to.
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Incubus--Drive was out at just the right time with words like: would you chose water over wine?, waiver by chance to be one of the hive, and when I drive myself, my light is found...great stuff.
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How do you feel about funerals?....would you want one?
by restrangled ini find funerals and wakes morbid and horribley depressing for all involved.
i just recently attented a celebration of someone's life, after their death.
it was wonderful.
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It might sound depressing but I don't want a funeral or a wake...I even told my brother not to even put it in the paper if at all possible. Since I have been DFed there wouldn't be anyone there anyway and the expense wouldn't be necessary. I have a small immediate family, hardly any relatives. I gave so much of my life to the organization, that the write-up in the paper would look ridiculous.
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I get more offended than others when I feel that I am being controlled or told what I can do or can't do. I tend to assume I am wrong whenever a problem comes up. These feelings are related to my JW experiences, along with an ability to easily recognise propaganda.
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This WT article makes me mad.... this is evil
by dawg init's bad enought that young people in the wt have to sell magizines, risk shunning when they find out the truth about the gb... but this article really makes me laugh and angry at the same time.
the part that made me the maddest was when the father said he "conquered" the habit, lying bastard!
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200611a/article_01.htm.
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I wonder what the incidence of prostrate cancer is in the congregations as it is actually important for men to ejaculate often to avoid this. Another example of how sex is obviously NORMAL, NATURAL, AND HEALTHY. Who can argue with that?