Posts by misocup

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WTS still an NGO in US?

by ICBehindtheCurtain in

hi all: i came across something very interesting, in looking at this pdf there is a list of ngo's that attended for some conference on anti-semitism and guess who is on there?

if you scroll down you will find that in belgium the wts (under their european christian jehovah's witness umbrella) but if you scroll down to the us section you will find that they show up as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, so apparently as of 2005 when this conference was held, they were still an ngo, does anyone else know about this?.

http://osce.usmission.gov/cordoba/cordoba_ngos.pdf.

misocup

VERY interesting indeed.

I have only just begun learning about this issue so I don't remember exactly what went on. Didn't they say they were no longer in the UN?

Can anyone breifly refresh my memory?

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Ex-Jehovahs WitnessesAngels With Dirty Faces?

by The wanderer in

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ex-jehovahs witnessesangels with dirty faces?anyone who is familiar with the jehovahs witnesses .

religion knows how the watchtower society views fallen angels.. .

they view individuals who leave the truth as weak malcontents that share no appreciation for god or spiritual matters.

misocup

I am sure more and more people are leaving, not because they want to run out and commit fornication, but because of policies and doctrines they find fault with.

I'd have to agree with the above.

I left because I found it was not the "truth" at all. In fact, I've come to know that the Bible was in fact written by men who claim divine guidance, but I don't know those guys so why should I believe them? Also, the Bible has been re-written and re-interpreted so many times there is no reason to believe it resembles the original texts at all. The Bible from God? I do not believe it.

So I left for reasons of belief and faith, but I was disfellowshipped because of the "flesh".

It's a case of the WTS and the Elders not wanting to see the real reasons for things. The real truth.

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Some things that make mundane things better...like...[list yours]

by UnConfused in

... having a big sink tub in the basement to wash the dog .

... an under the cabinet radio in the kitchen to easily turn on .

... having a mudroom .

misocup

Kleenex

cell phones

TV

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I'm confused- Does it mean that I stumble someone if I drink Coffee?

by Verona in

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i was reading the post from truth seeker on the april 15 wt.

i went a little farther in the article and noticed the q& a indicating that some in the congregation may choose to abstain from cafeine.. this kind of reminds me of the hotdog incident, back in the 60's when we wouldn't be allowed to eat a hotdog because it offended some brothers and sisters with weaker consciences (they believed that hot dog weiners had blood in them).

so we became closet hotdog eaters for awhile.

misocup

What are they building their faith on? ... a tower of toothpicks?

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What are you looking for?

by averyniceguy in

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what have you been looking for and cannot find it?

it can be anything, anybody, etc......

misocup

A time when I feel like a normal person instead of someone on the outside looking in.

and the winning lottery ticket

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Your Favorite Music this stage in your life? (Right NOW!)

by restrangled in

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i am enjoying john mayer's "heavier things".....my boys keep me up to date!.

we had so many exceptional artist for those of us growing up in the 70's,...i am curious as to what you enjoy now?what are some of the latest artists you enjoy?.

any younger posters feel free to clue us in as to your favorites!.

misocup

I like anything Satanic. Or anything that puts down organised religion.

Green Day, Bad Religion, Goth stuff

But I also like really positive stuff like, Oasis, Matchbox 20, etc

47 yr old Mom here. Making up for lost childhood.

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By their deeds you shall know them - aka JW's who aint that christian

by LaniB in

firstly some background.. when i was 21 i went to live in sydney and left my congregation in tasmania.

until then i had never seen the bad side of the borg.

being new in town and staying with my non jw sibling i immediately checked in with the local congregation and soon found a fellow witness to share an apartment with.

misocup

"used-nice-non-demon-possessed" furniture

hahaha!!!

That brings back memories.

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Do YOU Think People Actually "Love" You? Are They Intimate Friends?

by minimus in

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i believe we all want to think that we are very much loved and respected.

when we were in the "truth", we used to say that we knew our brother or sister would die for us----if they had to.

but in reality who really loves us???

misocup

During my fade only one sister I didn't know very well came by to see me after four months had gone by. At that time I simply stopped going to meetings after my father died. I still wonder if I'm remembering it correctly because it seems so shocking.

Before my fade we had a bible study at our house, we were regular in service, we had social friends. But when I made the decision to stop going, and I hadn't even told my husband, no one came over. I remember thinking it really showed them for what they were.

I still have moments when I think no one loves me. I grew up thinking that and now I know why. It's because there is no real love in that org. The WTS control socialization to such a degree that everyone is afraid of being marked for displaying natural affection for those ailing. I now have family and friends that I can count on, and I know love me.

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Doubters, Newbies, Lurkers: Do others do your thinking for you? from Awake

by OnTheWayOut in

take a look at this awake article.

i will make a few small comments in red (in parenthesis), but leave the .

bulk of commenting for others to add on.

misocup

It's autobiographical! They tell you to think for yourself, then tell you what to think!!! How evil they are. They make a rational arguement, then twist the hell out of at the end. the message being "think for yourself but everything not from us is from Satan".

The paragraph below works to enlighten and paralyze with fear. It's a form of mental strangulation. Definately designed as a hook to keep people in place.

Proverbs 14:15 states: "A simple man believes every word he hears; a clever man understands the need for proof."(TheNewEnglishBible) Many today are like sponges; they soak up whatever they are submerged in. It is the easy way. Exercise for the muscles is hard work; exercising the mind is even harder. (Here's the bait) Hey get your mind working.

It is so much easier to soak up whatever is around—and today, for the most part, that is television, the printed page, radio and movies.(Here's the hook)... Using information is bad

"The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers," that they might not know the vital truths of our time.(Here's the paralyzing poison FEAR) All the information available is from Satan

What about you? Will you let others think for you, or will you do your own thinking? Do your own, and "thinking ability itself will keep guard over you." At the same time, it must be admitted that we need good and proper guidance (And the kill)Let us tell you what to think.—2 Cor. 4:4, 6; Prov. 2:11; Ps. 36:9; Jer. 10:23. z

Propagandists tell you what to think.

Like I said, it's autobiographical.

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Get a load of this video... Mad Jw's at the door!!!

by AK - Jeff in

is this staged?

i noticed the man kept calling the householder 'brother', i never heard that done in the ministry.

opinions?.

misocup

It's fake