Deep condolences Life is such a beautiful and sacred thing, it seems so so wrong to treat it so cavalierly because of a man-made religion's interpretation of a book. So sorry.
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I Love Jehovah....
by african GB Member inhe's aggressive, viscious, unforgiving and woud'nt let anyone come into my house.. i am talking about my bulldog guys .
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Is he neutered? (I have no idea why I asked that...it just popped into my head.)
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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I resisted officially joining here for so long, wondering what would happen if the org got ahold of my identity. Thw way I was being used...well, it would be scandalous and affect a lot of people. What if the owners of this site were indeed in cahoots with Watchtower...and at some point, in one fell-swoop, dimed me out?
Unlearn, I had to laugh out loud when I read this. The exact same thoughts went through my mind when I made my first post with shaking fingers. And the funny thing is: I had been totally free of the WTS for at least two decades. But, not being df'd or da'd, I still had contact with family near and dear to me, and I imagined them finding out and in one fell swoop tossing me out of their lives.
But, there was an urge to get it out, even if it was just one post. Even the title of my first post said it would be my One and Only, my First and Last....LOLOL....and over 5000 posts and 4-1/2 years later, I still worry about my sister and other family "finding me out". Yep, I, too was raised in it. They say your personality is basically set by the time you are five.
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Walk Away
by breakfast of champions inno, not the joe walsh song.
one of our last co visits, he was railing on the apostates who can't just shut up and be quiet.
rabble rousers.
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, he was railing on the apostates who can't just shut up and be quiet
This is a good sign. Something is working....Evidently somebody is hitting a nerve or making progress somewhere.
One person at a time...little by little. Maybe this evil organization will fall yet, and the truly good-hearted will "hear" the message to get out of her.
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Eden =Why did Satan use a snake? Was Eve a dumb blonde....how could she?
by Witness 007 inif satan came down to eden and said...."hi there, i'm one of jehovahs angels...wanna try this fruit?
" would have worked.
i mean eve could have said regarding the snake...."okay for the last 100 years no animals here talked, except for adams parrot which calls him a "pretty boy" so i may have to talk to jehover about this....i mean everlasting life in paradise or......munch on this apple.....hmmmm i dont know, it looks yummy.
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Okay, folks, it's yore turn.
Okay....here's mine. This is part of something I wrote in 2006. (I didn't include the first two chapters, so it may seem a little vague.)
The Father and Son gathered together all the necessary elements and formed them into a likeness of themselves. And then the time came to activate their creation and the Father did this by breathing into the design the breath of life. He called it Man and blessed it.
Chapter 3
The Man was placed into a controlled area of the planet. It had been made perfect and physically beautiful while the rest of the planet was still wild and uncontrolled. This cordoned area was kept in balance by means of a device placed in the center of the garden. It was a regulator to keep the temperature, humidity, and climate perfectly synchronized. The Great One had named it the Tree of Life, for without it, the garden would quickly be enveloped by the surrounding thicket and the atmosphere would disintegrate into unpredictable weather anomalies. Every imaginable tree and flower grew in this special area and there was a multitude of life. It was a symphony of color, sound, aromas, and movement. It was a veritable paradise.
The Man watched the plants and animals grow and multiply. He gave them each a name according to their species and enjoyed intermingling with them and taking care of his garden home. He knew his creator and every day toward evening, they would visit. The man was given the ability to communicate by means of language and with this conversational tool, he began to talk to his creator about a desire of his own. He lacked for nothing. His every need was provided for, yet there was one desire he held in his heart. He discussed it was the creator one evening.
“Before I do this for you, Man, I am going to give you a gift. Up until now, all you have known is pleasure and peacefulness. You may still enjoy these things, but once I give you this gift, it will be your choice whether to continue your peaceful abode or seek something else. He guided him to the center of the garden where the Tree of Life stood quietly imparting its life giving elements into the air. Nearby, He planted another tree. This tree was especially beautiful and fruitful.
He turned to the Man and said, “With this tree, I give you the gift of free will. Hear me now, my creation, my earthly son. This tree will be called The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. I command that you not partake of the fruit of this tree. You must not even touch it. Every other tree in this garden you may eat from, but not this one. I tell you today that if you do, you will die. The choice is yours.”
Now that you have the gift of free will, I will fulfill your desire. You are right, my son. All the animals have mates. You deserve a companion as well. I will perform the procedure tomorrow. Rest well and contemplate your gift. It is a valuable gift and you must use it well.
With that, The Great One began the Grand Drama. He called all the Originals together and told them of these new developments.
“I want one of you to be a Watcher of the Man and his companion. You must be discreet, even invisible. If they choose to eat just one piece of the fruit of The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, report back to me at once. Everything will change. A new vibration of disobedience will go forth, and heretofore, there has never been such a vibration in the universe. There have only been obedience and faithfulness.”
After some discussion, one of the Originals was chosen for the task and then they were dismissed. The Creator prepared for the procedure that would create a companion for The Man.
The next day, The Great One put the man into a deep sleep and took a portion of bone and marrow from his body. With this, he cloned another body. However, he added a small alteration in the Man’s DNA and the resulting “clone” was different, yet similar. The Creator called it WoMan and the man was very pleased with his companion when it was presented to him later. The creator explained The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil to the WoMan as well and reiterated the consequences of partaking of the fruit.
Time passed and the Man and WoMan grew to love one another deeply. They took care of the garden together and every evening enjoyed visiting with The Great One.What then transpired was not foreseen nor expected by The Great One, the Originals, nor the Others. When The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was placed in the center of the garden as a gift of free will to Man, it also instigated a change in the Watcher. Day after Day, the Watcher observed the Man and WoMan. Now this Original was given the power to disguise himself so as not to be recognized observing the pair. Sometimes he would scamper about as a squirrel. Sometimes he would be a gazelle discreetly drinking at the water hole nearby, or, his personal favorite, a slithering snake hiding in the grass beneath The Tree itself. But day after day, the pair faithfully obeyed the command not to eat of The Tree’s fruit. The Watcher began to contemplate this idea of free will. This gift had not been given to the Originals nor the Others. There was no such temptation placed within their reach. The concept began to occupy his thoughts until one day he figured out a way to take free will for himself, not as a gift but as a right to possess.
He made a choice without discussing it with The Boss. He decided he would make the pair more curious about The Tree; force a choice. Up until now they simply ignored The Tree. It really wasn’t hard to just say “no”. There were so many other beautiful trees in the garden with tasty fruit growing on them, that ignoring The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil wasn’t difficult at all. So he devised a plan.
In his observations, he had determined that the WoMan was still learning about the ways of the garden and its life forms and vegetation and was very curious about everything. She was always surprised at something, like the first time she saw a butterfly emerge from its cocoon or a baby duck hatch from an egg.
He would speak to her in the form of a serpent. Just because she had never observed this before, didn’t mean it wasn’t possible. He was certain this is how she would think. And he was right.
Careful thought had told him that the first seed he should plant is doubt. If he could get her to doubt the certainty of the stated consequences, he could replace it with a different possibility. Get her to think for herself. Let her experience the feeling of the power to think independently. After all, that’s exactly what was happening to himself.
And when he finished talking to the WoMan, he was convinced she was going to disobey. He had told her that she would not die but would become like The Great One and the Originals, really knowing what power was all about. She would realize things that would change her life. The decision was in her hands. She could obey the Man and The Boss, or she could make an independent decision on her own and taste the goodness of the forbidden fruit.
She reached up and picked an especially succulent-looking fruit and bit into it. Nothing happened at first, and then she felt the sudden rush that comes with exercising one’s free will. The Watcher felt it, too. In that very moment, everything changed.
She was excited, breathless with the desire to share this experience. She went to the Man and enticed him. The power of this feeling transformed into a heated sexual urge and together they partook. Afterwards, they realized what had happened, but every time they looked at each other knowingly, the sexual desire would stir. The thrill of disobeying The Great One was enticing. They finally had to hide their nakedness to cover up the obvious.
It was getting close to evening when the creator would come visit. And right on time, there he was. When he saw that they had covered their usually nude bodies, he knew something was amiss.
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I Got My Mail At Work Today & I Recieved A Package With White Powder in It!
by minimus ini called the police and they brought the fire department and police to retrieve the post office package.
i found out that in the last month at least 2 other businesses got this type of package.
the white powder was in a plastic that was placed inside a pack of orbit gum.. the contents were taken and were then brought to the town postmaster.. wish me luck!.
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Bowling talc inside a pack of Orbit gum......Guess you can feel better now, minimus. Move along...nothing to worry about....just yet. Seriously, dude, think about the trailer and Valiant
(What are bowling allies? Bowling unions?)......jk NC at the m'sp :-)
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If you yell 'I quit' after you're fired, the Hank Williams Jr. Story
by designs inespn formally severed all ties to hank 'he's like hilter' williams jr. after his flub, hank now plans to take all of his rowdy friends with him... .
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Hank used his free speech to describe something using offensive language. It cost him. He had a right to say it, but ESPN has a right to dismiss him.
.........Just like the Dixie Chicks when they spouted off about their political point of view. It cost them dearly. But, it's free speech. Say what you want to say, but others have a right to say what they want, as well, i.e., "We're not going to play your music on our radio stations anymore!"
Gotta love this country.
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I Got My Mail At Work Today & I Recieved A Package With White Powder in It!
by minimus ini called the police and they brought the fire department and police to retrieve the post office package.
i found out that in the last month at least 2 other businesses got this type of package.
the white powder was in a plastic that was placed inside a pack of orbit gum.. the contents were taken and were then brought to the town postmaster.. wish me luck!.
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Was the florist a local "mom and pop" or a national chain?
I'm not a fat cat but I have what some might consider a luxury business.
Maybe you should downsize to a 2-bedroom trailer and an old Plymouth Valiant. Seriously, minimus, be careful. There are some real idiots out there that don't have a clue, but just want an excuse to wreak havoc.
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Rawr....gotta leave the innocent people outta this
by AwSnap inso aggravated right now.
my "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents.
my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent).
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I wouldn't even have to think twice about this one, AwSnap. When your uncle told you he was 20 miles away at a restaurant waiting on family to arrive, he probably wondered why you didn't say, "great, mind if I join you?"
Never, let the JW a-holes cause YOU to feel uncomfortable. He's your family, too, and if they want to skulk away to the bedroom while you're there, I'd just stay an extra 30 minutes longer and make them squirm. But, don't bring up any kind of JW stuff to argue about. If they start, just put your hands up and say, "I don't discuss that stuff", and leave it at that. Change the subject quickly. Don't let them draw you into an argument. That sounds like exactly what your BIL wants. Getting you df'd would probably thrill him.
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Love it! Your style reminds me of a rather famous storyteller, but, darn, I can't think of his name right now.