Daniel:
By all means become a JW. You'll soon find the source of our pain and anger.
I'm not in Houston, so I can't help with your KH search. Perhaps you can study with You Know?
Expatbrit
Daniel:
By all means become a JW. You'll soon find the source of our pain and anger.
I'm not in Houston, so I can't help with your KH search. Perhaps you can study with You Know?
Expatbrit
Daniel:
If your girlfriend is a JW, why can't she tell you where a kingdom hall is?
Expatbrit
i have not shared my "story" with you yet.....i will give you the just of it right now, and go into further detail later.. i was baptized three months ago.
i started having doubts right away.
i am currently inactive and have no plans to return.
Open_Mind:
The following is merely my opinion:
Do not reply to this e-mail. Do not consent to see or speak to this elder. Do not answer his questions.
The reason I say this? It appears obvious that the elder has gone into damage control mode. His e-mail is peppered with questions that all elders ask when they are trying to back you into a corner for easy containment and disposal. Answering any of these questions with your true feelings will automatically lead to disfellowshiping and shunning, with immediate negative impact upon your business interests.
Also, I'm sorry to say, I wouldn't give too much credence to his protestations of anguish. From my experience as a JW, if a study or freshly baptized person "goes astray", they are written off very quickly with few feelings of sadness. Remember that the only thing most JW "frienships" are founded on is their membership of the WT. Once this no longer applies, any "friendship" becomes null and void.
In your situation, I would attempt to stall for time. Claim a busy schedule, ill health, whatever. In the gained time, make altering your business interests your top priority. See a lawyer regarding existing contracts with JW's. Once business is no longer a factor, you have more options (I don't know if you have family members in the WT).
I hope that things work out. Let us know how it goes.
And welcome to the board.
Expatbrit
the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.
the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.
the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.
You Know:
Getting into an exchange based on silly quotations is not a well considered move on your part, given the proclivities to ridiculous sayings of the organisation you espouse.
Like most economists, Keynes did not claim to be God's mouthpiece on Earth, therefore mistakes on his part are understandable. That does not invalidate the entire profession of mainstream economics. Nor does it lend validity to the Watchtower/Larouche whacko fringes.
Your attempt to give credence to your doom-mongering through straw-men fallacies is entirely unconvincing.
Expatbrit
the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.
the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.
the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.
I'm looking forward to You Know's last words, famous or not.
You Know, please please PLEASE enroll in college and take some economics courses.
Expatbrit
check it out: http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000241.
ariel, sista, it's called cognitive dissonance.
read up on it, and you will see why nothing makes sense in your life.
And boy! they sure closed that discussion down fast, didn't they!
Back to the deep things of God, such as "what is your favourite body soap?"
Expatbrit
this is my first time posting anywhere.
thought i would say hi and i am enjoying reading everyone's comments and stories.. "plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
" -veronica a. shoffstall
One of the Expatbrit family's greatest treasures is a fruitcake made in 1648 by my Puritan 15 times great grandmother Martha Mylordisupstanding Expatbrit. Originally made as a present for her husband Zephaniel Jesusimcoming Expatbrit, it was placed in the family vault upon his untimely demise involving a girdle and an orange.
Every year we test the fruitcake with a skewer. Since the skewer comes out relatively undissolved, we judge it not quite ready to eat.
However I confidently expect my great great grandchildren to enjoy that supreme privilege.
Until then Safe, perhaps a few crumbs to the dogs from the tables of the masters? Please?
Expatbrit
* http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/invictus.html
Tallyman:
To be quite honest, I really don't have any interpretations or deep thoughts on Invictus. To me it's just a piece of fluff written by a long dead minor poet. The last two lines are a bit catchy.
What I found curious was the strength of your reaction to it, enough to construct a web page specifically for it. Whether or not it resonates to the events in your own life, I have no idea; I'm no psychotherapist, that's for sure.
I was not going to bring the thread up again because I would rather remain on good terms with you than argue over interpretation of an obscure nineteenth century poem. I have no reason to disbelieve your research on Henley, indeed most poets and writers of the nineteenth century displayed monumental hubris.
Having said that, I look forward to any future essays you have, since I find them interesting. I may also however, find them curious.
Expatbrit
got a good question for regarding the wt book, "life - how did it get here?
by evolution or by creation?
this book quotes author francis hitchings(the neck of the giraffe)many times.
"Well, I'm sure the brothers at Bethel researched it thoroughly. Why are you finding fault with the faithful and discreet slave? Don't you think that's arrogant?" - Response from Expatbrit's JW family.
Expatbrit, head thwacking against the monitor.
so have any of you been to my place?.
have you even heard of it?.
we've got concrete cows!.
Nelly:
The bikes in the arches are not so bad. It's the bloody screaming students banging on the bottom of the car that are really annoying.
Expatbrit