From your profile it appears that you have never been associated with the Witnesses. If that is the case then there is no reason he would not be able to still associate with you. He will have less free time with meetings on Tuesday and Thursday nights, service on Saturday and meeting on Sunday and all the preparation that goes along with these. He will not be allowed to celebrate ANY holidays with you and may even try witnessing to you on occasion.
middlechild
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If our son gets baptized....
by lavendar in.....will he still be able to come over to our house to visit.......or will the "powers that be" forbid him to do so?
would we then be considered a "satanic influence" on him......the same people who gave birth to him, lovingly raised him, generously provided for him, nursed him in sickness, sacrified for him, etc.??
lavendar .
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You Never Did Enough As A Witness!
by minimus inone thing that i will never miss is how you were made to feel inferior----that nothing you did was ever really good enough to satisfy the organization and of course by extension, jehovah god.
i know of sooooooo many witnesses that are truly depressed because they can never seem to satisfy god or the elders.. people even start getting mysterious illnesses and believe the "demons" are always trying to get at them.
the mentality is that "everyone hates us because we're jehovah's witnesses".
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middlechild
It's too bad that Witnesses live such an unfulfilling life. They claim to live the "real life". Nothing could be further from the "Truth".
Yeah, life sucks now but remember, this isn't the real life. The real life is in the paradise. We'll deal with anything now just to get to the real life ahead of us.
(Not my words, theirs!)
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If someone is going to buy you a birthday or christmas gift.....
by bagpuss inwould you prefer them to ask what you would like or to surprise you, and if they did ask for ideas would you be offended?
the reason i ask is that my mother in law has just told my husband that we may as well go back to how we were when we were witnesses and stop buying them presents as we don't put any thought into it and ask them what they want.
he is really upset by this comment while i am just plain bloody angry!.
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middlechild
I try to always be practical so I like knowing what others want and I like letting others know what I want. I would hate to waste my money on something someone is not going to use or they don't want. What good is that? I always like to give ideas to others who are getting me, my husband, or my daughter something. Then we really get use out of it and get something that we wanted and don't feel like the giver wasted their money. Of course I'm not a stickler in this area. It's just if both parties are amicable to it. And I'm always very appreciative no matter what!
However, I don't condone the way the subject was brought up to you. It could have been handled much more tactfully. They could have just said, "We've decided to start Birthday/Xmas wish lists since it's so hard to know what to get us anymore." And then you could have said, "We really like surprising you with our gifts, but your list should give us a lot of great ideas."
Have I gone overboard? Sorry. I'm too much!! :)
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Did you REALLY ever have faith in God or was it more in men?
by avidbiblereader inseriously, think about this, when you look back on your faith, was it really in god, or was it the god from the witness perspective and you really did/do equate the witness organization with god, or was it really in men?.
with so many that have been disillusioned with god since leaving the witnesses, where was your faith really in?.
respectfully,.
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middlechild
Did I even have faith in anything at all? I just did everything because that's what I was supposed to do. I got baptized at 15 because that's what I was supposed to do. In one of my pre-baptism meetings the elder said, "of course, you've gone to Jehovah in prayer and dedicated your life to him, right?" I was like, o yeah. So I went home that night and did that. Every prayer before every meal and before bedtime was exactly the same, not heartfelt but rote. I was 4th in my graduating class but didn't go to college or even want to go because that's not what you're supposed to do. Instead I pioneered after school and went to pioneer school. I only ever worked part-time, just to support my pioneering, because that's what I was supposed to do.
Faith in God? For what? He's not doing anything for us. Being a Witness ruined any chance of naivety in that area. Wouldn't it be nice for just one minute to think there's a God who cares and is involved in our lives and I could talk to him and feel some sense of comfort from him? I know better. Thanks for all the enlightenment, JW org!
Maybe I had faith in my parents? What a joke!
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middlechild
yeah, i actually had to clean the house, do the wash, make dinner, play with my daughter. don't do that to me again....lol
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Second Impressions: Call me naughty but American boys know what to do!
by Crumpet inwell one corona turned into several glasses (bottles) of your finest white zin blush - yummy and later some blue moons.
whoever paid my bar tab - thankyou!.
i got back to my hotel room at 8am my time - 2 am texas time.
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middlechild
Love it!! O, to be single again (and without the rules and regs of the org!)
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Name Things Witnesses Make Big Deals Over
by minimus inhave you ever seen a witness get absolutely giddy over placing a measly tract with a neighbor and get up on the platform and tell the "experience" of how the neighbor actually said that he'd read it!
big deal!!!.
in our hall, they loved to applaud over the dumbest things!
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middlechild
I threw a wedding shower for my sister and dropped all the invites off at all the "sisters" homes. Inside was a list of things my sister wanted/needed. I asked if someone was going to get her something off the list to let me know so that she didn't get duplicates. Well did I hear about that. How unchristian of me to have people reveal their gifts. Some may not be able to give much and this would make them feel bad and put them in a bad position. So I had to write an apology note and go back to every person's house that got the invite and drop it off. Yes, what evil intentions I had wanting to make sure my sister got what she needed for her marriage.
Then I go to my first "wordly" shower and OMG the card is read out loud and the person who gave the gift is thanked in front of everyone. I nearly had a heartattack.
Some of my fellow "sisters" here will understand.
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I went to a JW "memorial" (funeral) talk on Saturday
by cruzanheart injust when i think that i will never set foot in a kingdom hall again, the father of a dear friend of mine died.
now, this friend and her husband stood firmly by our side during the hubbub surrounding my dad's suicide and the funeral we decided on (no kh, no elders, no half hour infomercial), and she was having problems with her own family, so i decided to go to his funeral talk as support for her.. nothing dramatic happened, really, but it was a good reality check.
jennie, our 13-year-old daughter, went with me and almost fell asleep from boredom and the fact that the elders were too cheap to turn the ac down to a comfortable temperature on a warm texas saturday afternoon.
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middlechild
I guess after I wrote that last post I was like, wait a minute, anyone reading that will be like, you had to back pedal and not say what you were really feeling, what this freedom really is. Doesn't sound very free to me. So I had to edit it. I do feel very free but I guess what I was trying to say was that with family still in, and if you still want to associate with that family, you can't live as free as you would like, at least not outwardly. You know what I mean. Glad your fade was so successful!
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I went to a JW "memorial" (funeral) talk on Saturday
by cruzanheart injust when i think that i will never set foot in a kingdom hall again, the father of a dear friend of mine died.
now, this friend and her husband stood firmly by our side during the hubbub surrounding my dad's suicide and the funeral we decided on (no kh, no elders, no half hour infomercial), and she was having problems with her own family, so i decided to go to his funeral talk as support for her.. nothing dramatic happened, really, but it was a good reality check.
jennie, our 13-year-old daughter, went with me and almost fell asleep from boredom and the fact that the elders were too cheap to turn the ac down to a comfortable temperature on a warm texas saturday afternoon.
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Freedom is the most wonderful feeling!
At the end of a conversation with my jw sister about why I didn't go to the memorial I said, "I'll tell you one thing else. You have no idea how good it feels to be free. I'll leave it at that." I knew I probably should have bit my tongue but I couldn't help it. Unfortunately, that statement came back to bite me when my sisters confronted me soon after about a lot of things and one thing she asked was what I meant by that statement. I had to back pedal a bit and just said, "O, nothing. It was just how I felt right at that moment." But how true, this freedom is wonderful!!!
Ok, so now that I think about it, I'm really not free!! I feel very free in so many ways but the fact that I'm just a "fader", means I'll never really be free! Oh, well, it was good while it lasted.
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JWs and the weird way they say Happy Birthday
by reneeisorym inyou who don't know -- i'm daed but my mother still sends me very short e-mail about every two months.. this morning she sent me an email that said:.
25 today.
it would be sooooo wrong for someone to say -- "happy birthday" .. but its fine to mention that i am 25 today.
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middlechild
For years my sisters and I would call each other on our birthdays just to acknowledge the day. One would be hurt if that day passed without a phone call. Then somehow my parents started calling too. There would even be reminder phone calls, "Did you call your sister today?" But "Happy Birthday" was never uttered during those phone calls. Ridiculous!! Now my Mom writes poems about the day of our birth and calls us to find out our schedules so she can leave it on the answering machine when we're out. All this effort/trouble put forth for a day they can't celebrate. By the way, I've faded but the rest are in.