Thanks so much for posting that! Boy did that shake the cobwebs outta my head. I've been scouring Genesis all night here. LOL. That really raised many, many things I had never even thought of.
And seven, I love that Quote! Where can I find that whole "prayer of oneness"? Would love to read the whole thing
when reading the new world translation i used to sometimes think, who translated this gobbledygook?..
i just read another passage where the nwt manages to slaughter the english language.. acts 21:30 .
nwt ...., and a running together of the people occurred:.... kjv ..., and the people ran together:.... niv ..., and the people came running from all directions.. this is an excerpt from the foreword of the nwt; it is a very responsible thing to translate the holy scriptures........into modern speech.
Oh I know! It's too funny. Sounds completely goofy.
Reminds me of the King James Version when it's describing Esau I think it was eating his stew...it read something like "And he sod pottage" Sounds a bit rude!
when reading the new world translation i used to sometimes think, who translated this gobbledygook?..
i just read another passage where the nwt manages to slaughter the english language.. acts 21:30 .
nwt ...., and a running together of the people occurred:.... kjv ..., and the people ran together:.... niv ..., and the people came running from all directions.. this is an excerpt from the foreword of the nwt; it is a very responsible thing to translate the holy scriptures........into modern speech.
Amicus! That marshmallow thing is too funny. Had to look that one up and see it with my own two eyes. Still laughing
Marshmallow is an edible wildflower though, to quote my "Edible wild plant book"......"Whole plant contains mucilagelike material, however the roots are the best source".......YUM! hehehe I have NO idea what the original Hebrew would be referring to though.
Would be interesting to see which is a closer match, egg whites or wild flower.
Any Hebrew experts out there? My interest is piqued now.
"One Persons Heresy Is Anothers Truth"
Edited by - eyes_opened on 4 February 2001 0:27:56
clearly there is a great deal of anti-jw sentiment here and elsewhere for that matter.
such feelings are generally directed at those at the heart of the organisation and there are no such feelings for the rank and file who are often very genuine people.. in actual fact there are some advantages in being a fully loaded jw and to be fair it would be interesting to note them down.
Just a quick apology to Grunt and all...Didn't mean to put a silly post in the middle of a serious discussion. Didn't realize that the theme had changed. Sorry Grunt, I hope that things get better for you! {{{hugs}}}
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posted by rick [rick] on february 02, 2001 at 16:03:02 {llynvmoc0u3m1gkntx/mfmfbt36xyc}:.
dear friends,.
i received word from a friend who has spoken with infonex that all shell accounts at cyberpass including h2o's will be terminated this coming wednesday, february 7, 2001. all information on our site will be wiped clean on that date.
ive been reading thesr posts for a while, thinking on them, pondering as the wt has recommended over the years.. having grown up as a witness, and having been involved in both the boring and the more exciting parts of the ministry, i know what it is like to be part of a team, and more importantly , i know what its like to be a team player on gods side.
and then one day, things start to unravel, the marriage, the relationship with bethel, the relationship with members in the congregations, and then, on another later day, suddenly you find yourself on the outside.. so, as time passes, a person begins to miss the association, the meetings, the laughter of the ministry groups, even the smell of the kingdom halls.....and effort is made to restore self to favour....and in time that too....comes to pass.. but here i am, a few years later, once more isolated, but this time by my own choice, beset by doubts and concerns over something that i held and hold sacred.. my circumstances have changed.
i chose the path of marriage again, to a wonderful person that has filled my life with contentment without the pressures of having to be an elder or an example to others in the christian manner, for those that are or have been in positions of oversight, you will know what this means...and yes my wife is one raised as a witness, and having her own journey that she may or may not choose to share with you...in any case, i feel priveleged to know her just for the decent human she is.. so, here i am, watching, reading, thinking....and i admit to being a little lost.. firstly, 607, it may or may not be correct, frankly my dears.... the ever changing date of armaggeddon...well that would appear to be a previousness on the part of the leading lights...after a while it gets tedious and a little self defeating.... the meetings and requirements for field service...well as i see it, the bible indicates it is a requirement to meet together, and furthermore a requirement to tell others about jehovah....the application of the principles have become (almost law,) in order to belong to the organisation known as jehovahs witnesses...that is a minor problem, despite the best efforts from co's and do's from the platform, the unoffical stance is that if you aint cutting it.. you aint spiritual.. now,where im at in this stream of time, along with all the confusion about what is right and what is wrong, i have to just look for other confirmations that jehovahs time is at hand...if indeed it is near at all.. man is now developing life in vacuums, primitive cellular structures it may be, but the leaps of testing criteria has been enhanced by the use of computers to cut time.... man has the ability (proven) to destroy earth.. man is killing the earth.. now if i was the creator, and he once before destroyed civilisation when they built the tower of babel, i would be thinking that soon they would know stuff they shouldnt know, and in any case, the earthdewellers are so dumb they will destroy themselves..id better start big a... my concern is,, that in the bigger picture..does it really matter if we get it so wrong, so many times and so quickly?
I totally empathize with your feelings! especially the part about feelings as though you had failed Jehovah for 37 years. It's wonderful though that you can now see that it wasn't God you were failing, but others impossible ideals of what they think is the right way to serve God. Your post was very heartfelt and has touched a lot of folks here who are grappling with many of the same issues. {{{{hugs!}}}}
clearly there is a great deal of anti-jw sentiment here and elsewhere for that matter.
such feelings are generally directed at those at the heart of the organisation and there are no such feelings for the rank and file who are often very genuine people.. in actual fact there are some advantages in being a fully loaded jw and to be fair it would be interesting to note them down.
Hey! I just thought of one. How about the smug feeling you get when the brother from the platform asks everyone to *meet* him in Habakkuk, and you get to the right book and the right scripture within a matter of a few page turns, while everyone else is still flipping away for the next minute or two! <looking around to see if anyone has noticed your amazing talent> Of course no one ever does. or book LOL Ah well, you have to have SOME fun during those particularly boring talks studies *grin* Ah, then there's the amazing ability one acquires that allows you to draw amazing doodles in the skinny margins along the edges of the watchtower lesson!