12-31-00. watchtower.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201. dear brothers,.
Amen to all the above statements silent,
Everything is kept so hush hush within this organization, it's great that the *truth* is finally starting to come out thanks to people like you who are true to their own hearts and consciences. Thanks for keeping us up to date and sharing your story, we know it can't be easy. As seven stated you are in our thoughts and prayers.
Eyes
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hello all, i don't know if this is the right place to post this, but i need to get it out.. i'm new to the board (registered today), and here's my story:.
born into the "truth" so to speak, my parents just started studying after i was born.
after the 1975 prophesy failed my father slowly distanced himself from the org.
Welcome Conflicted!
Wow sounds like you had one heck of a childhood I think that you will find that this is a great place to chat and meet people who have had similar experiences with JWs. Glad that you are here!
Eyes
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my first post here, but many of you know me from h2o.
thought i'd spread this post around to a few boards.. just had a nice long talk with a producer at nbc's dateline.
he is 99 percent certain that they will be doing a segment on the witnesses.
Hey there,
I was reading about a book at Amazon.com called "Judging Jehovah's Witnesses : Religious Persecution and the Dawn of the Rights Revolution" By a man named Shawn Francis Peters. Never heard of him or the book before yesterday...but here is what one of the reviewers wrote who read the book:
The author is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses nor is he sympathetic toward their beliefs. (Which he makes clear in various comments throughout the book.) However, he does support their legal right to have such beliefs, to proclaim them, and to act in harmony with them.
What I liked about the book was the background the author gives to the legal cases. He doesn't just give you the legal facts but he gives you the story of the Witnesses, their persecutors, the police officers, and the judges. He tries to help you see why each group acted the way they did. He shows how the persecution affected the private lives of the Witnesses. I particularly enjoyed the behind the scenes look into the Supreme Court. What the Justices thought in private and how they wrangled with one another before making their decisions.
Mr. Peters has done a good job in bringing back to public attention a momentous period in legal history that helped to shape in a significant way the legal environment of our present time. A time in which even hated minorities can look to the courts with a certain amount of confidence that their legal right to think, proclaim, and act in harmony with their beliefs will be protected
Eyes
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now we all know for you who have attended meetings at the kingdom hall and heard speakers from the platform give us bible verses and telling us that the ruler of this world is the devil of which i firmly believe due to the fact that this world is completely warped.. .
doesn't it strike you funny to see that satan who makes the rules for his system can't keep them and tries to manipulate rules and regulations always in his favor and that of his seed.. .
#1 example- did you know that according to the bible that satan's agents keep transforming themselves into agents of light.
Battman
Excellent article, thanks for posting.
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hi folks.
what do you like about kingdom halls?.
i am not talking about the software i.e., the people, the pure language, the music, the smell of lavender as the toilet door swings to, or the obedient rustle of bible pages.
Hey Philo,
Bummers that your hall was like that! All the halls I've been to here in the US were actually quite lovely. They had very large windows and I used to daydream my way through many a talk <Don't get me wrong, as you can tell if you have read my posts I'm VERY disillusioned with the JWs.>
Eyes
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hi all,.
it wasn't really him that sent me but the the one that came after him said this was a good place to stop in, lets just hope i am welcome.. i just posted this on h2o so it will have to do as an intro for me here:.
"i thought i'll give you all a little background to my beliefs so as you will all know where i come from or what perspective i put on things when i post or make comments.. i do believe in a god and a creator hence i can not call myself an atheist.. thp
Hey HighPriest,
Welcome to the board
I like your God/dess. That's my idea of a loving Creator
Eyes
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the preaching work ,fred and the wts 'batting slump'.
in a thread below, fred, in a quite daniellesque manner, sought to detract from ray franz's credibility because ray did not promote the wts' preaching activity.. firstly i have to say that fred is not in the easiest position.
he is a wts apologist of sorts and whereas he might have some support on some other boards like great crowd or wol where his non-sequitors would go quite undetected, he finds it hard going here.
LOL! Thanks for a great post Grunt. Just remember if A Jehovah's Witness can't explain it from the reasoning book it's either apostate or demonized! Has to be one of the two, as all their reasoning is 100% accurate <NOT!>
Eyes
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i realise that this has probably been explained ad nausiewotsit, but i can't find out where.
how do i use all those little face icons?.
expatbrat
When you post a reply, underneath the message box to the left it says "add emoticons to your message" it explains how to use them there
eyes
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i used to post over at h2o a long time ago and thought i would drop in and say hello.
i am very glad that someone has taken the time to set up another place where ideas about jehovahs witnesses can be freely posted and discussed.
this type of place is a great public service for people who are just starting to see through the thick fog and who are just beginning to recognize cracks in that grandiose, self-serving, anything-but-ivory, tower that has the gall to refer to itself as the truth.
Hey Atticus!
Welcome.
Eyes
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hey all,.
i'm sure this topic has probably been covered before, but as i'm in this situation now i'm hoping maybe you can offer your thoughts.. i'm just curious, what are actually grounds for disfellowshipping?.
i'm to the point where i no longer believe that jehovah's witnesses have the truth, but if at all possible i want to avoid the big *d* word, as most of my family and my husbands family are still jehovahs witnesses.
Trevor! That is priceless. Thanks
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