Minimus- The governing body members, Jaracz and others he allows to have input in decisions have the power to change all the unjust crap that goes on in the Jehovah's Witness organization. They choose not to. Mrs. Flipper and I concur we should rip them a new a$$hole often and always ,at every chance. They deserve it. They certainly have not considered the feelings of thousands of child molestation victims by burying them and their heartbreak in a corner, yet covering up for perverts they allow to go door to door to recruit more victims. When does it end? So there we vented, Mrs. Flipper and I do feel better, now we can go to bed. Peace out, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
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Do You Feel Good Telling Off The GB & Other Watchtower Officials Here?
by minimus indoes it make you feel good when you tell jaracz and company how much they suck, how they're gonna disintegrate and why you're so pissed?
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Today I Witnessed to a Street Witness about Child Molestation Settlements
by flipper inhello folks, mr. flipper the pot stirrer here again.
no, not really, i was easy on the old guy.
at our post office in our home town there every day is an approximately 65 to 70 year old witness man who stands next to the post office entry door with the magazines wt & awake.
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Thanks for all your replies. Mr. Flipper here. Marvin- that is a good idea. Maybe I will make a return visit on him at the post office sometime to see if he read the news release. Just so sad these people can't see through the falsity and haze of their church
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CHP Officer Killed Ran Over in Chase, Mr. Flipper & Son within Half Mile
by flipper ina tragic thing happened as some of you may have heard in the news in sacramento, california area.
a chp officer was ran over at 70 miles per hour while laying out a spike strip on hwy 50 east of sacramento in the foothills, while other sheriffs were in pursuit of a suspect that had been stopped and found to have warrants out for his arrest on drugs.
the suspect veered off the freeway and intentionally ran over officer douglas russell 46 who had served as a highway patrol officer for 22 years.
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Purps and ex-jw, my sentiments entirely. Everybody drive safe out there, avoid crazy drivers, crazy people, save your lives. It's the only life we have
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showed wife the new km article. bad decision.
by freeme inhey guys.. sometimes im really next to crying (better: im crying).
no answer.
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Free Me- Mr. Flipper here. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with this. Believe me my friend many on this board have dealt with this, too. Welcome to this board and we are here for you if you want to post or talk about it. Try to let your wife know you love her, and keep the emotions and shouting down, that can cloud reasoning in a highly volatile state. Wait to talk with her when you guys have cooled down a bit. Just a little advice from been there done that!. Peace out to you my friend, Mr. Flipper
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Watchtower Officials- Please Read This!
by nvrgnbk inyou are dying.. you are evaporating.. we're the only ones that care, and that's because you took so much from us all.. i used to think you were just misguided.. now i'm thinking that you are heartless and manipulative.. the fight against your lies and control is just beginning.. i say that not to minimize the tireless and valiant efforts of those who have spent years exposing your fraudulence.. i am indebted to these for easing my exit from your cult.. but a new generation is awakening.. we are not done with you.. i got my brother out who was an elder.. i got a ministerial servant out.. i got my son out.
he will not waste his youth on your lies.. i post on jwd in the hope of getting many more out.. i am working on a book about the lies surrounding 1914. .
we smell your fear, your terror.
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Nvr- Mr. Flipper here. I totally am with you bro on your views! I don't think any of us could ever come out strong enough against the org. to reply to all the hurt and pain they have caused us all. I, too got my son out of it 4 years ago, but the org. still has my daughters 20 and 19 trapped! I feel Brinjen speaks the truth when she says if we all put forth a supreme effort to bring this cult down and to it's knees then in time many more can escape the mind controlling , manipulative ways of the governing body . I for one am glad we have wonderful people like yourself who have the courage to speak up against the wrongs of the org. I'm personally doing everything I can to help others see the need to get out of this stupid mind numbing religion! ( Refer to my witnessed to a sreet witness about molestation thread). Any little bit of real truth we can plant in these people, in time, just might make a difference Good thread nvr!!
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WHY the JWD SITE IS VITALLY IMPORTANT!!
by Seeker4 inthis discussion board is vitally important now, and will become even more important in the coming years.
lots of reasons, but here's just one from my own experience: .
for many years i was a super zealous, firm believing jw.
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Seeker 4, Mr. Flipper here. I was born and raised in the Witnesses and I must say that since Mrs. Flipper and I joined in March I have had more fulfilling experiences writing and talking with people about issues that are important to dislodging the ingrained witness thinking than I ever did in the 40 some odd years I was in the org. I get so much more caring and respect from members of this board than I ever did in the witnesses. I agree too, that this board serves an extremely important function of being an outlet or release and comfort for those escaping the droning witnesses. I appreciate all you ex-elders one of which is you, who have given good advice on matters pertaining to my life and others. Thanks seeker 4 for your input and thanks to everybody on this board. I can't be thankful enough! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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This is my decision...
by DeusMauzzim ini'm going to support my df'ed friend and make sure he never goes back in again.. even if it gets me df'ed as well.. my own conscience, based on reason and logic, says i must do so.. i will not allow them to scare me into obeying their heartless rules.. f**ck you, brooklyn!.
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Deus, It is a noble thing you are doing and something to be proud of in supporting your friend. More props and power to you
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CHP Officer Killed Ran Over in Chase, Mr. Flipper & Son within Half Mile
by flipper ina tragic thing happened as some of you may have heard in the news in sacramento, california area.
a chp officer was ran over at 70 miles per hour while laying out a spike strip on hwy 50 east of sacramento in the foothills, while other sheriffs were in pursuit of a suspect that had been stopped and found to have warrants out for his arrest on drugs.
the suspect veered off the freeway and intentionally ran over officer douglas russell 46 who had served as a highway patrol officer for 22 years.
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Hello all. A tragic thing happened as some of you may have heard in the news in Sacramento, California area. A chp officer was ran over at 70 miles per hour while laying out a spike strip on Hwy 50 east of Sacramento in the foothills, while other sheriffs were in pursuit of a suspect that had been stopped and found to have warrants out for his arrest on drugs. The suspect veered off the freeway and intentionally ran over officer Douglas Russell 46 who had served as a highway patrol officer for 22 years. As the chase reached speeds of 100 miles per hour up Hwy. 50 the suspect almost killed another chp officer trying to lay out a spike strip down the hill in Eldorado Hills, the officer narrowly escaped when the suspect intentionally tried to run him over first. Doug Russell was not so lucky, minutes later the suspect did the same thing hitting him at 70 mph under the Ponderosa Rd. bridge sending him sprawling. Within 2 minutes a helicopter whisked officer Russell to the hospital where he was pronounced dead 2 hours later. Fortunately, they caught this poor excuse for a human further up the freeway and he is being charged with murder.
Mr. Flipper when this happened was about a half mile heading west down Hwy. 50 to do some jobs. Unaware to me my son was with his girlfriend a half mile down the freeway from where this happened coming up the freeway in opposite direction on his way to Lake Tahoe with his girlfriend the same direction the chase had been going. He called me on my phone and said," Dad. What's happening, the traffic is jammed, they have police helicopters and what looks like 50 highway patrol and police cars everywhere!?" Then we both turned on the radio when on the phone and found out the bad news. My son and gilfriend took an alternate route to go on their trip, and I took about hour and half to get down to the valley on side roads. What is it that allows our court systems to let crazed people like this suspect to slip through the cracks and be a danger to others and himself? Too lenient? Stupidity in our legal system? What? Now all we know is a very nice man is dead and his only survivor is his wife, They had no children. As a matter of fact, when I lived in the Placerville area where this man worked I remember dealing with him, he was one of the nice chp cops. I think it was Ernest Hemingway who said,"Any man's death diminishes me". And when you are that close to the situation it makes you say," There for the grace of God go I". Quite an unpredictable life we lead, don't you think? You folks have any thoughts or have you experienced these scary things and how did you deal with it? Peace out, hope you are all well. Mr. Flipper
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Today I Witnessed to a Street Witness about Child Molestation Settlements
by flipper inhello folks, mr. flipper the pot stirrer here again.
no, not really, i was easy on the old guy.
at our post office in our home town there every day is an approximately 65 to 70 year old witness man who stands next to the post office entry door with the magazines wt & awake.
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Hello folks, Mr. Flipper the pot stirrer here again. No, not really, I was easy on the old guy. At our post office in our home town there every day is an approximately 65 to 70 year old witness man who stands next to the post office entry door with the magazines wt & Awake. Never says a word unless talked to, stands just like a freaking mannequin! So I saw an opportunity to help him, so I took it.
I made the first move exiting the door. I asked him," What do you have there?" He mumbled," the Watchtower and Awake. They have news for our day." I said," Oh! I've read those before, would you mind if I have them? ( Much to his delight ). I enjoy reading these from time to time. " I asked," I forget, Who puts out this magazine?" He said," Jehovah's Witnesses." Then I said," About 3 months ago I read an associated press news release in the newspaper that said the witnesses settled 16 child abuse settlements with victims who had been molested by elders and others in the church. Did you know about that?" I asked. He replied," You mean the catholic church, don't you?" I said," No. I know about those settlements. The witnesses settlement was out of court and they put a gag order on the victims where they could not talk about the settlements". He then said," That doesn't sound right to me. I know if there are molesters in our religion, we disfellowship them and put them out of the church to protect others." I then said," Are you aware that people in your church have been kicked out for reporting certain molesters? Expelled from your church?" He said," If that would happen then they would not be the true faith or religion!" I asked him how long he had been a witness? He replied," Since 1962. I got out of a religion because I thought this one was the truth. But what you're telling me does'nt sound right. It's hard to believe."
At that point, feeling sorry for the old guy I said," Well I'll read your magazines but please read that newspaper release I 'm giving you as it will show you what happened with the molestation cases." At that I wished him a good day hoping he'll read the news release I gave him. But isn't it sad that someone like him who has given 45 years of his life to these bastards, has not been informed of what's going on in his own church? It just confirmed my suspicions that probably 85 to 90 % of these people do not know about the child molestation settlements.. It felt good telling him though, in a polite way, didn't want to rock his world too much. So I welcome any comments or views you have on this. I wish we could just get on worldwide television and tell them all straight out. Peace out to you my friends. Mr. Flipper
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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?
by flipper inhello gang!
didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?
this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!
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Thanks folks for your replies. I'll tally everything up on Friday, see who was popular.
Mad Tiger- Don't worry. No one's holding a gun to your head. We're just havin' fun here.
Dagney- Steely Dan, liked them a lot. Love " The Fez" and " Kid Charlemagne". Great songs.
Primate Dave- Lots of Zeppelin fans here.Me too. I have a little of King Crimson's greatest hits, I know nvrgnbk is a big Crimson fan