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  Are you confident about blood?

  by eyeslice in

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  the issue of blood remains a tricky one.. personally, i think that the ot prohibition of blood is more of a statement of respect for life and in particular respect for the life of the animal that lost it life in providing food for man.

  similarly, it was prohibited for a calf to be cooked in the milk of its mother.. with blood transfusions, no one actually dies and, therefore, in my view blood transfusion is more a matter of personal conscience than centrally dictated law.. undeniably though, it is clear that risks are associated with blood transfusions, particularly hepatitis c.. if an alternative were available, would you not choose this every time over whole blood?

  would this not then justify the current jw stance?.

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  eyeslice

  The issue of blood remains a tricky one.

  Personally, I think that the OT prohibition of blood is more of a statement of respect for life and in particular respect for the life of the animal that lost it life in providing food for man. Similarly, it was prohibited for a calf to be cooked in the milk of its mother.

  With blood transfusions, no one actually dies and, therefore, in my view blood transfusion is more a matter of personal conscience than centrally dictated law.

  Undeniably though, it is clear that risks are associated with blood transfusions, particularly hepatitis C.

  If an alternative were available, would you not choose this every time over whole blood? Would this not then justify the current JW stance?

  eyeslice
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  February 8, 2003 Awake - Get an Accurate Picture

  by Southland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the internet gets slammed in this article in the 2/8/2003 awake!

  the article speaks for itself.

  (updated with better quality scans) .

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  True, there may be things to watch out for on the internet.

  However, the Society fear truth above all else.

  If I do web based research on any subject, I might find a diversity of views on that subject. However, more often than not, a pattern begins to emerge that helps the discerning researcher to identify the extremes that may be taken on an issue, and where the center ground lies.

  Search on Jehovahs Witnesses, and the center ground starts to make you question the validity of their fundamental claims and the way that people are treated. Very worring indeed to the Society!

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  JW Blood Cartoon.

  by qwerty in

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  eyeslice

  The only time that I have come across this type of tract was in Lincoln Nebraska, in a coffee bar.

  Does anyone know how these are distributed? Are they distribite like the Watchtower and Awake, i.e. left randomly in locations where they are like to be picked up by members of the public?

  Edited by - eyeslice on 21 January 2003 11:0:0
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  More Sex During The 50's

  by Guest 77 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, this info comes from the this morning's fox&friends program.

  the male host reported that back in the 50's couples had more sex.

  his personal comments were, that's because women had had less time on their hands and as such they could engage in such activity.

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  Can't comment on this - I must have been concieved in the 50's!

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  Dumbfounded by COC

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over the weekend, i read for the first time crisis of conscience.. whilst i was already familiar with much of the material on chronology, 1874, 1914, etc.

  i was dumbfounded to learn how the governing body actually works and conducts itself.

  i think that many of us who have been elders in the past can really relate to ray and the battle he faced.. i must admit, i thought it was just me, and the battles i have faced with local hard-line elders.

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  eyeslice

  Over the weekend, I read for the first time Crisis of Conscience.

  Whilst I was already familiar with much of the material on chronology, 1874, 1914, etc. I was dumbfounded to learn how the Governing Body actually works and conducts itself. I think that many of us who have been elders in the past can really relate to Ray and the battle he faced.

  I must admit, I thought it was just me, and the battles I have faced with local hard-line elders. I have often sat in elders meetings thinking that some of these people are simply slaves to man made laws, why cant they see what the Bible really says rather trying to determine the letter of the law from WT publications? My opinion was, and still is, that many elders whilst often knowing many scriptures word for word, are unable to grasp the simple message behind the words.

  What was shocking is the picture painted of a group of men who apparently do not have time to study the Bible deeply themselves but at the same time are willing to make doctrinal decisions at the drop of a hat.

  Like Ray, I once felt that I could make a difference by being a moderate in an extreme organization. But I am not so sure now.

  eyeslice

  ps I would like to write Ray - if anyone has his address could you e-mail it to me
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  decrease in Canada?

  by Omega Man in

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  i heard that in the jan km the number or publishers for sept was around 106,000 down from 110,000 in aug. where did about 4000 publishers go?

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  RunningMan is quite right.

  We will have to see if last years increase in numbers in the west are entirely accountable to the new 15 minute rule.

  However, to be able to compare Jan 2002 with Jan 2003, you will have to wait until Mar or April, as the figures are published in the KM 3 or 4 moths later.

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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 1-19-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 1-19-03 wt study

  december 1, 2002 wt page 18. personal study that equips us as teachers.

  1 timothy 4:15,16.

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  Here is a web site that has various Bible versions available on line plus links to other sources of reference.

  http://bible.gospelcom.net

  eyeslice
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  Simple math question for dum dums

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you travel a distance of 100 miles .

  and the first half of the trip you go at 100 mph.

  and the second half of the trip you go at 50 mph.

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  Francois,

  Let's not worry too much about the poor bee. Flying at 75 mph, I think she would drop down dead anyway.

  What's worrying me is these two trains! Are they really on the same track?

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  What is the `jw Trend?

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  what is the `jw trend' relative 2 this time (january/february) etc etc last year,can someone illustrate with charts,if possible?.

  i estimate that all the(present)german jws will b gone by 2053!.

  based on information in quadrant(christian research)whose source of info was religion ???

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  Current trends;

  less said about the nearness of the end
  less first call field service
  fewer bible studies, especially with those not currently associated, i.e. not family studies
  less sense of urgency
  less of a lead in the field service being taken by elders - non existant amoungst most ministerial servants

  more self important titles - congregation bookstudy conductor now congregation bookstudy OVERSEER
  more of a hardline being taken on disfellowshipped ones

  ever increasing paranoia about apostates
  ever increasing paranoia about the internet
  ever increasing emphasis on unquestioning loyalty - Korah v Moses an regular example being quoted
  
  Get the picture?

  eyeslice
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  Simple math question for dum dums

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you travel a distance of 100 miles .

  and the first half of the trip you go at 100 mph.

  and the second half of the trip you go at 50 mph.

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  Larc,

  Your family question - depends on the definition of a family. An extended family could be grandfather (a firstborn), son (a firstborn) and grandson (a firstborn) plus any other 2!

  Another one for you. A man points at another man and says

  "brothers and sister have I none but this man's father is my father's son"

  what is happening here?

  eyeslice

  Edited by - eyeslice on 16 January 2003 10:22:49