"I should like to add, that even though I am free, growing up a Jehovah's Witness affected every part of my life. I can move on but part of me will always want to know what happens next in the strange world of the Watchtower Society.
I can't imagine gowing up any different - it's too bizarre to contemplate. This is the only world I know.
Gorwing up as a JW brought to mind fundamental questions of life. Who am I? Why am I here and where am I going? What is the purpose of life?
Simply leaving the witnesses has not answered those fundamental questions, but at least I have the freedom to disover them for myself.
Well put - exactly my feelings.
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My Story: Part 9 Journeys End
by truthseeker inpart 1: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/163998/1.ashx.
part 2: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/164136/1.ashx.
part 3: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/164163/1.ashx.
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Milk and Meat are poisoning people and destroying our health!
by Witness 007 ini have read a dozen different health books that come to this same conclusion.
what is milk?
mammal infants require milk from their own species to grow quickly and start solid food.
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I am vegetarian by choice for a number of reasons, though I must add that I do eat dairy products. I take tea and coffee black and so drink little milk at all even in tea and coffee but do eat some cheese.
The reasons? In no particular order:
(1) I do not believe that eating meat is particularly good health-wise. Certainly eating large quantities of meat at the expense of other foods isn't at all good.
(2) We are certainly facing a world where there food supplies will be under ever increasing pressure. Rearing of meat (and fish for that matter) is not an efficient way to produce food. And, we cannot afford to lose more and more rain forest and wilderness areas each year to food production. We probably have enough cultivated land available to feed everyone if we at least cut down on our own meat consumption and help developing countries like China to see that eating meat every day is not a goal in itself to aspire to.
(3) I cannot see how the rearing, transportation and slaughtering of livestock in the developed world is anything but cruel and inhumane.
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Witchtower twists yet another scripture 2Cor 12: 8 -10 Nov 15 WT
by hamsterbait innovember 15 study edition, p24 para 5.. "regarding his "thorn in the flesh", paul made fervent pleas to jehovah (the scripture actually says the lord) read 2 cor 12: 8 - 10) god did not miraculously relieve paul of the "thorn in the flesh".
instead, god strengthened him to endure it.
jehovah's (whose???
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Before I left permanently, I found myself more and more having to correct brothers and sisters who incorrectly applied 'Lord' to Jehovah. As far as I can see, the majority of the times that Paul used the word 'Lord' he was referring to the Lord Jesus - when he referred to God he used the word God.
Hence, when Col 3:23 states, "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men" it referring to the Lord Jesus and certainly not the work of Jehovah (aka Jehovah's Witnesses). I am amazed how often elders and even higher ups in the organisation mis-quote the scriptures, proving that they are not the Bible scholars the purport to be.
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I hope not and certainly don't think I am.
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Why do people use so many derogative, belittling terms on here like....
by reniaa inmaybe for the same reason the bible namecalls:.
sinners.
undeserving.
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eyeslice
I try not to use belittling terms when talking about a religion I no longer support or practice. The written word can be powerful enough without resorting to such.
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The growth from within - more focus on youth coming soon
by passwordprotected inwith the wts blatantly 'stealing' the lds practice of family worship (home) evening (see previous thread), i foresee them going even further.
[b]it's going to become about keeping the youth[/b].
think about it, asides from 3rd world countries, there's little growth happening from the door knocking.
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But - they are fighting a losing battle.
I have been to a meeting in years but in the last month my 17 year old son who had been regularly attending with is mother stopped going. The kids aren't daft they can see the crack down of further education and the continued rhetoric of we must do more in the field service.
Other than the prospect of a mate in the truth and the possibility of promotion to MS for young lads, I see no attraction for the truth to young ones.
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If Jesus Has Been Ruling In Heaven Since 1914, What The Hell Is He Doing???
by minimus incan anyone please tell me?
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minimus - perhaps I got it wrong - overseeing the angels who are overseeing the preaching work. You can't get too many overseers!
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If Jesus Has Been Ruling In Heaven Since 1914, What The Hell Is He Doing???
by minimus incan anyone please tell me?
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Overseeing the preaching work of course.
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when did JWs start and stop useing Deutichland uber alles?
by dogon ini can remember singing the song but can any one post a link to when it was incorporated and when it was dropped?
what song was it?.
thanks.
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Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with using any tune (within reason) as a hymn.
If I recall correctly, after the re-unification of Germany, they used a different tune to for the national anthem but popular opinion was to revert back to the original. Similarly, the Russian Federation changed the tune to its national anthem after the collapse of the old Soviet Union but have gone back to the original.
There have been a number of 'tunes' dropped by the society over the years because of their worldly origins. The problem is they don't have composers quiet as good as Haydn.
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Did You Have Respect For The Elders In Your Hall?
by minimus inone day after a sunday meeting, 2 elders got into it with each other and started screaming at one another in the back of the hall just as service arrangements were being made.
of course, the boe counseled them strongly but the result was that the congregation lost respect for the whole body.
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I used to - I guess I bought into the whole thing about God's spirit lead organisation and respect for his arrangements etc.
Then, I became one myself and saw the jockeying for position and infighting etc.
I once handled a situation totally by the book (The Elders book). But because it was to do with the son of an elder in another congregation who had 'contacts' in Bethel, I (the local Body of Elders really but obviously aimed at me) got a snotty letter back form the Branch. I wrote back again and said that we had to be careful that should not become a case of nepotism but nothing was ever really done to address the situation.