This is the only that I post to.
I don't like to think about myself to be an apostate or anti-JW. But then again, I guess if the local elders found out about it there might be a few questions raised.
Eyeslice
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Is this the mother of all anti-jw discussion boards?
by truth_about_the_truth ini've seen a few other ones but this one seems to be the most active.
by far the most interesting and diverse.. there's another one out there on e-watchman but found that one to be quite cheezy.
everyone overuses emoticons for some reason over there.
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eyeslice
Valis,
I loved reading the story Charlotte's Web to my kids - so will look out for the film. I just love childrens' fiction - but that's not surprising having read to all four of my kids for years.
Eyeslice
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When did you notice the yearly pattern of JW life?
by truthseeker inhow long was it before you became aware that your activities as a jw were the same this year as last year?.
discounting the regular "5 meetings a week" and "saturday field service", let's look at the average year in a jw's life, beginning with the september service year... september.
if you haven't been to your district convention you will this month.
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eyeslice
I see what you are getting at, but is a yearly pattern of life a bad thing?
Unlike modern cultures who see time as linear progression, older cultures had a much more cyclical approach to life.
What we missed as JWs was any notion of culture and celebration. JWs don't celebrate the coming of spring, the fruitfulness of the land (harvest festivals, Thanksgiving), the birth of a child (christening, the naming of a child), the rite of passage from childhood to adulthood (Bar Mitzvahs) , birthdays - I could go on and on.
Eyeslice
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Practical reasoning 101 vs Theocratic Ministry School
by unclebruce inexample: jehovah?s witnesses say that we can have a free home bible study.
when the arguers conclusion rests on an alleged analogy (or similarity) that is not strong enough to support it.
watchtower bible and tract society of jehovah?s witnesses.
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eyeslice
UncleBruce,
You get my vote to be the next School Overseer!
Eyeslice
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How much increase could they absorb?
by JH insince most congregations have sufficient elders and ms, i was wondering what size increase in numbers in a small amount of time would cause them trouble?.
imagine if everybody that's df'd would all go back to the hall at the same time.
that would surely be a huge headache for them.
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eyeslice
I am sure that they could cope with a huge increase. Those of us older ones remember the days when there were very few in the congregations but still all the jobs got done. Sisters did the accounts, I gave my first public talk at 18 years old! Recently, I served in a 3rd world country were I was field service overseer, school overseer, took a group study and did either the public talk or Watchtower every week. The point is, if needs be, running congregations can be done by a relatively few willing individuals.
There is just one problem with your question; Increase? It just aint going to happen!
Eyeslice
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Blood taking...is it a disfellowshipping offence or up to conscience.
by Gill incan you tell me whether the taking of blood is a conscience matter or a disfellowshipping matter?.
i ask this because i have just come away from a heated discussion with my parents and they insist that taking blood or blood products has always been a matter of conscience and no one has ever been disfellowshipped for taking blood.
they say that a question was raised at the service meeting over the new blood card/documents whether taking blood fractions was breaking gods law and the presiding overseer j.h said that taking blood has always been a conscience matter and never was anyone disfellowshipped for it.. is this true?
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eyeslice
Gill,
This whole subject has been one that the WTB&TS has deliberately made cloudy. For legal reasons, they will say accepting a blood transfusion is a personal choice and not one imposed by the society. But this is because the society does not want to (1) accept any responsibility for the subsequent out come (i.e. they don't want to be sued if someone dies) and (2) they don't want to appear to be a dogmatic sect (they have had problems in Europe over personal liberty issues).
The reality is though, it was a disfellowshipping offense - the elders' manual lists 'failure to abstain from blood' (exact quote) as a reason for forming a Judicial Committee, hence the possibility for disfellowshipping. However, as other posters have pointed out this is now seen as dissassociation on the part of the one accepting blood but this amounts to the same.
Eyeslice
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The Old International assemblies
by pratt1 ini remember back in the lat 60's earlier 70's the international conventions.
i thought they were great and we always had dubs from around the world who would stay at our house for the assembly.. .
one of my best memories is about a group of young sisters from the mid wet who had never really known any black people who stayed at my house and stayed in our guest bedroom during the 7 day assembly .. .
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May be nostalgia reigns here but the old assemblies were great. They certainly were hard work especially for families but there was the rooming work, preparing 1000's of meals and washing up 1000's of meals trays, erecting massive marquees, building the little booths that served sandwiches and coffee, etc, etc.
Things are a less exciting in these simplified days!
Eyeslice
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Do you think that the "U.N." will one day ban all religions?
by JH infor many, religion is the root of terrorism and war.
since the beggining of creation or evolution, mankind is at war not only for religious reasons, but economical ones too.
oil is a good example.
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eyeslice
No. A general ban on religion will never work. Look how the communist block tried to get rid of religion. 60 years later when communism started to crumble, it turns out that religion had survived and it seems to have re-emerged as strong as ever.
Any system of human rule has to recognise that religion is deeply ingrained in the human psyche.
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BBC Radio programme on End of World Beliefs
by eyeslice inbbc radio 4's religious programes are often worth a listen.
if you are interested go to; .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/programmes/beyond_belief/index.shtml.
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eyeslice
BBC Radio 4's religious programes are often worth a listen.
If you are interested go to;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/programmes/beyond_belief/index.shtml
The 10 Jan programme on the End of the World and the 09 Aug on Cults are both particularly good. One of the points they make in the programme on the end of the world is that these beliefs are nearly always held by people who are dispossessed who fell that the have special saving knowlegde that the rich, ruling classes do not have.
Eyeslice
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Culture or the lack thereof
by Justin into belong to a culture is part of being human.
yet, jws and evangelicals are told to avoid being contaminated by the secular culture.
the evangelical movement, however, has created a subculture of its own.
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eyeslice
I certainly agree with the premise that JWs are devoid of culture. I started a thread a while back about JWs having nothing to celebrate; I guess it is all part of the uniformity and control.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/80630/1.ashx
Eyeslice