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  What is a "pony"?

  by Mystery in

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  after a few responses; i will tell you what the circuit overseer told my mom (and the others out in service) the definition of pony is.. i can not find his definition anywhere on the internet or in the dictionary - maybe someone can enlighten me on the definition of "pony".. .

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  AlphaOmega

  Cockney rhyming slang...

  "Pony and Trap" = Crap

  EDITED TO ADD - Sorry BluesBrother - I didn't read before I posted
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  For all you Jesus freaks out there.

  by Shawn10538 in

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  which scriptures are the best for describing just exactly who jesus is?

  thanks for playing.

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  I reckon that he had a sense of humour.

  Although not a thousand laughs today, some of his parables and sayings would have been a breath of fresh air for the listeners. He may well have raised a few laughs too.

  Passing a camel through the eye of a needle
  Strain the gnat, but swallow the camel,
  Remove the splinter but don't notice your plank
  Ask for a fish, give him a snake ?

  etc etc...

  I guess that for us today, it would be like watching a comedy routine that you have seen a million times, but for those of the time that were hearing this afresh, it would have been funny.

  I reckon that when all the disciples were on the road with JC, they would have sat around in the evenings round a camp fire, telling stories, sharing jokes and singing songs, whilst sharing a glass or two of wine.

  Anyway, the problem that people have today is that because there has been so much myth and mystery wrapped around the Bible, people don't feel that they should laugh at some of the funnier sayings - they feel "duty bound" to pretend to be awestruck and over analyse things.

  Anyway, a Pharisee and a tax-collector walk into a Synagogue...
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  For all you Jesus freaks out there.

  by Shawn10538 in

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  which scriptures are the best for describing just exactly who jesus is?

  thanks for playing.

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  AlphaOmega

  Yep, have to say "Freak" works for me too.

  Don't have a problem with it at all... who wants to be normal ? Even Mr and Mrs Average, are desparately trying to escape from their shells.
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  Watch how masons hide secrets in plain sight

  by ninja in

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  AlphaOmega

  The PM is probably stuck in the ether at the moment.. it'll get there.

  I'm off to sleep now, but if it hasn't got to you by the morning, I'll either send my pigeon or my flying monkies (saw them on the Wizard of Oz, and just HAD to buy some).

  Night night
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  Watch how masons hide secrets in plain sight

  by ninja in

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  AlphaOmega

  what is two ball cane anyway?

  I'm guessing that if you search for it on Google pictures - you'll get people doing rudies ! Hmmm... just had a look and I guess that it is a rude a the symbolic "dipping the dagger in the chalice" etc etc. Found this for you my friend.

  Another hand signal is the Vulcan peace sign. It is supposed to mean "Live Long and Prosper," and can be seen in Star Trek.
  
  Vulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts, and light. The festival in honour of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil.' It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil. What is even more interesting is that Vulcan is adored in Masonry under the name of Tubal Cain. In the Masonic Quiz Book the question is asked: "Who was Tubal Cain?" The answer is: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans.''
  
  In Masonry, Tubal Cain is the name of the password for the Master Mason (or third) degree.
  
  Listen to what occultist and Mason, Manly Palmer Hall, has to say:
  
  "When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mastery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a ploughshare.''
  
  There is also a sexual connotation associated with Vulcan and Tubal Cain. Former Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, explains:
  
  "For Masons who wish to conceal their membership from non-Masons, but still advertise it to their Lodge brothers, there is a special pin (or tie tack) they can wear. It looks like an upside down golf club with two balls near the top....Many people assume the person is a golfing enthusiast, but it is actually a visual Masonic pun.
  
  "This is called the 'Two Ball Cane,' and is a pun on the secret password of a Master Mason, 'Tubalcain (sic).'...It is also an all-too-obvious pun on the 'god' of Masonry, the male reproductive organ. Nice, eh?...especially when many men wear these wretched things to church on Sunday!"
  
  
  
  

  ...and you have a PM.
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  Where's The Money & Why the Secrecy?

  by Outaservice in

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  red flags should go up when any organization you are associated with and supporting is not open about it's money.

  there are institutions that track the various charities and religious organizations so that people can determine which ones are honest about their finances.. how does the watchtower society fare in this regard?

  do you know, or have you ever known, how much they take in, or how much money they have, or even what they do with it totally?

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  They are acountable under UK law - as they are still required to file accounts (depsite their charitable status) because they are a "Limited Company".

  Their accounts are freely available. however, when searching for their accounts, it is worth looking deeply because they are actually split into several companies. "International Bible Students Association" / "Watchtower" etc.

  There are threads on here (last few months) that posted the accounts.

  Have a look on the search. The big surprise to me was the the IBSA made A LOT more profit than the Watchtower.

  I'll try to dig out references to those threads if you have no luck with the search.

  AO
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  Talk On Cell In UK While Driving & Go To Jail For 2 Years!!!

  by minimus in

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  fiddle with your navigation system and you'll be thrown in the slammer!

  don't try to use that mp3 either or you'll have the book thrown at you!

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  FunkyDerek

  The crime is not, as you might think, killing someone because you were too distracted to pay attention. The crime is being too distracted to pay attention, i.e. driving dangerously. Punishing the crime after it is commited but before it has the worst possible consequences is a good thing.

  I have to agree. This is a nice concise summary of the situation.

  I guess that some will have issue with the fact that talking on a mobile / cell phone is not a crime. However, driving whilst not paying attention is, talking on a phone only adds to that lack of attention to the road.

  Hell, the roads here are awful. Town planners seem to dump zebra crossings and mini-roundabouts RIGHT AFTER a corner. So, you turn a corner only to find someone walking across the middle of the road right infront of you !

  There are enough hazzards on the roads here without councils inadvertantly adding more ! Add this to the stupidity and arrogance of some pedestrians and you have a recipe for disaster. Disasters that occur everyday on our roads - without saying too much that could give my identity away - I have seen more than enough of it.

  Anything that can be done to ease this would be welcome.
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  Consolation on Demand

  by chasson in

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  i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

  here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

  this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

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  Thank you for these...

  Do you have any from the "darker years" 1925 - 1930 ?

  I'd especially love to see a scan of this edition :

  The Golden Age 1926 Apr 7 p.438}

  Tonsillectomy is called a minor operation. If so, getting well is a double major. If any overzealous doctor condemns your tonsils go and commit suicide with a case-knife. It's cheaper and less painful.

  ...or any that reveal the daft medical advice of the time, such as any of the issues used here ?

  http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/medical_quackery.html

  Many many thanks
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  Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  often flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??

  even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".

  god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.

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  Whether the serpent had legs isn't a doctrine!

  RR

  No but it is indicative of the Society's methods: Telling the R&F that black is black, then black is white - and expecting them to accept it !

  Not a biggiee - but sometimes daft changes like this have made some JWs sit up and think (in my experience anyway)
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  The Way to Paradise by Van Amberg....crazy conversation with Mom

  by restrangled in

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  a few days ago my mom had complained that she had loaned out her copy from many years ago and one of her brother's lost it.

  one of my cousins said he could order it over the internet and had it shipped to her.. the new version has a complete index in the back of all the errors and false predictions.

  she promptly whined to me that the apostates had gotten a hold of it and were trying to make the society look bad.. i told her she was being paranoid and that books are always updated.

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  AlphaOmega

  It may have been this copy...

  http://www.lulu.com/content/185257

  This is a high quality enlarged replica reprint of the rare 1924 book by W. E. Van Amburgh, who was the Secretary/Treasurer of The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society for 43 years. It is worth noting that in his time W. E. Van Amburgh was one of only five members of the Watch Tower Editorial Committee qualified, as the Watch Tower said, "to approve as Truth each and every article appearing in these columns.” He must have been very thoroughly familiar with all the Watch Tower’s teachings to hold such responsibility. Today many of the doctrines taught in "The Way to Paradise" are no longer taught by Jehovah's Witnesses. This edition includes the biographical supplement, "Who was W. E. Van Amburgh?"

  Maybe ???