Posts by AlphaOmega

this is strange, i read that in 1995 they did away with the "generation" teaching, yet the official watchtower website still says this, over 12 years later !.

thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. so some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end.

that generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before god brings this present system of things to an end.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/pr/article_07.htm.

AlphaOmega

A printed version fell off my bookshelf today !! Anyway, the printed version has been changed (don't know when - the date still says 1993 !).

The printed version now says :

alt

The Watchtower CD still says the same as the website :

*** pr section 7 pp. 27-28 pars. 15-16 God’s Purpose Soon to Be Realized ***

15
Likely you are familiar with the events of the 20th century. You know the chaos that has arisen. Some 100 million people have been killed in wars. Hundreds of millions of others have died from hunger and from sickness. Earthquakes have taken countless lives. Disregard for life and property grows. Fear of crime has become part of everyday life. Moral standards have been shoved aside. The population explosion poses problems that are not being solved. Pollution is spoiling the quality of life and is even endangering it. Truly, we have been in the last days since 1914 and are nearing the culmination of Bible prophecies involving our time.
16
How long a time period would these last days prove to be? Jesus said regarding the era that would experience the "beginning of pangs of distress" from 1914 onward: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:8, 34-36) Thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. So some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end. That generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before God brings this present system of things to an end.

The printed edition is marked as "The British Edition" - maybe they've given us more time on this side of the pond ?

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Roof Repair-Could Any Brothers Give a Hand?

by bavman in

a friend/co-worker of mine who is an inactive dub told me today that the old hall i went to is getting a new roof.

however, he was upset because only "special" people are being allowed to work on it (himself not included, nor his active, in good-standing father).

it seems you have to be "invited" to work on your own kingdom hall roof now.

AlphaOmega

Locutus,

How did he justify that scripturally ???

"Do your good works in private" ?

Or was it just an "org directive" ?

AO

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Hi to Everyone

by DawnLS620 in

jw
friends

my name is dawn and i'm a ex-jw, who has been out since l976.

i live in michigan, was born and raised here but also spent about 3 years in austin, texas (1 of them as a witness - the other two running amouk having fun).

i just spent the last 2 1/2 hours on the phone with my dear old buddy, dave, (seven006) whom i've heard some of you know.

AlphaOmega

Hi from across the big pond!

Seconded ! Welcome aboard.

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No lit for ex-jws, big A coming in June, apostate warning--what's going on?

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

there are 3 current threads that say these very things.

(ok, the one about armageddon says it will come within days or weeks--not months--so that means june 2007.

seems to me this is whipping up into a paranoia bigger than the 1980s apostate scare, bigger than they've ever seen before.

AlphaOmega

Blondie said...

You missed the WT study recently where it said that even if you didn't understand the reason for why the WTS was telling you that it was scriptural, that you must still do what they say.
Can someone help me out with that quote?
Blondie

Watchtower April 1st 2007 (who said that they don't have "April Fools Day" ???)

8. What does Paul invite us to "contemplate," and how should we "be obedient"?
8 Notice that Paul invites us to "contemplate," or carefully observe, the outcome of the faithful conduct of the elders and to follow such examples of faith. Furthermore, he counsels us to be obedient and to submit to the direction of these appointed men. Bible scholar R. T. France explains that in the original Greek, the word here translated "be obedient" is not "the normal term for obedience, but literally 'be persuaded,' implying a willing acceptance of their leadership." We obey the elders not only because we are directed to do so in God's Word but also because we are persuaded that they have Kingdom interests and our best interests at heart. We will certainly be happy if we willingly accept their leadership.

AO

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No lit for ex-jws, big A coming in June, apostate warning--what's going on?

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

there are 3 current threads that say these very things.

(ok, the one about armageddon says it will come within days or weeks--not months--so that means june 2007.

seems to me this is whipping up into a paranoia bigger than the 1980s apostate scare, bigger than they've ever seen before.

AlphaOmega

I don't know exactly why, but this made me LTIWM! (Laugh 'Til I Wet Meself)

Couldn't find a pic of a bee going to the toilet, but if you squint hard, this COULD be a bee.

(sorry, Scully's puking smiley gave me a bit of an obsession with animated gifs !)

Edited to add "AW ! It doesn't work !!!"

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NEW policy! NO LIT for EX-JWs!

by MinisterAmos in

it's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.

if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.

presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.

AlphaOmega

This goes hand in hand with the new Watchtower arragement.

It's about restricting the information that is able to "get out" to places like this.

I'd imagine that providing material to prohibited persons will become an offence - JC, DF etc...

Maybe they may even use "evidence" of providing material from this site to root out those who distribute it ?

Just my thoughts.

Does anyone have a scan of this letter yet ?

Thanks

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1914 - Is this literature still current ?

by AlphaOmega in

this is strange, i read that in 1995 they did away with the "generation" teaching, yet the official watchtower website still says this, over 12 years later !.

thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. so some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end.

that generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before god brings this present system of things to an end.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/pr/article_07.htm.

AlphaOmega

This'll be a good test as to whether the WT people read this forum.

If their website gets altered, then it is a certainty that they read the posts here - with that proof, we can disfellowship them all !

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1914 - Is this literature still current ?

by AlphaOmega in

this is strange, i read that in 1995 they did away with the "generation" teaching, yet the official watchtower website still says this, over 12 years later !.

thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. so some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end.

that generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before god brings this present system of things to an end.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/pr/article_07.htm.

AlphaOmega

This is strange, I read that in 1995 they did away with the "generation" teaching, yet the official Watchtower website still says this, over 12 years later !

Thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. So some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end. That generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before God brings this present system of things to an end.

http://www.watchtower.org/library/pr/article_07.htm

Is the booklet "God's Purpose Soon To Be Realised" still current and does anyone have a scan of the page or the whole thing ?

Thank you