Posts by bluebell

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New Light Coming?

by dontomas in

hi - i have jw friends (really!

) and have gone to kh for some talks and study every couple of weeks.

things like the new watchtower policy, selling buildings (i am from nyc and know the heights well - that will make a boatload of money), the sex abuse settlements, drop in membership and donations, and some of the changes i have seen in the magazine (the annointed qfr, for example).

bluebell

I think that because they have a grip on your familiy and your only friends, they can do as they please and people are too scared to lose everything.

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You Must Marry Only In The Lord!

by The wanderer in

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you must marry only in the lord!how many times do you recall that expression blaring from .

the sound system at a district convention or circuit assembly?

you must marry only in the lord!

bluebell

Well I remember when I was 15 this guy who was 24 was after me. I thought he was just a nice guy, I kinda used him as a replacement for my bor who I was really close too and had just da'd himself and been kicked out. Anyhow, the WHOLE cong is discussing me and this guy and I just don't have a clue.

When I finally realised what was going on I freaked out big time and got absolutely no emotional support from my parents. They thought it was completely ok for a 24yr guy to be going out with a 15yr girl. I regret how I responded to the guy, he was genuinely nice and never ever treated me as anything but a friend, and was willing to wait until I was alot older. The whole cong thought I'd led him on, but I was just missing my brother, due to my father molesting me I just wasn't interested in guys in that way.

A few years down the line, I'd come clean about being molested, was very depressed and therefore obviously labelled bad association. I decided to make one last ditch attempt at being happy - figuring I just wasn't doing enough. Did loads of study and prayer and aux pioneered and applied for Bethel too. And was still seen as bad association. A bro I knew as a friend was warned off being a friend by an elder in his cong "due to what happened between her and her father has probably affected her spirituality" wtf? This guy was going out with one of my friends and i dont go around telling every tom dick and harry what went on in my past! I thought my father was in the wrong, not me and what ever happened to confidentiality?

So whichever cong I'd have gone to, this would have just followed me around. I'm glad I realised what was going on. My father protected and me labelled bad. I left.

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Is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?

by ThomasCovenant in

apologies if you all have read this before.. watchtower 1952 15th april pages 254-256. it is the woman that is commanded to show respect and recognition of the mans position of headship, and women who rebel at it are not so much rebelling against men as they are against god.gen.

3:16; 1 cor.

11:2-10; eph.

bluebell

LMAO so a woman should always be in subjection but it's SATANIC to show respect to her.

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27,000 Known Jehovah`s Witness Pedophiles.???

by OUTLAW in

alright my techie friends..here is a new puzzle for you....i knew i had heard there were 27,000 known pedophiles..i thought it was from jr brown ..it still might be..alot of my buds on the board could`nt find the info that would support what i thought i had heard..i found some...go to google search engine..type in "number of jehovah`s witness pedophiles"..the number 27,000 comes up a few times in the list of subjects..you guys are much better at getting into the information than me.....sic-em!!.....lol!

!...outlaw

bluebell

BUT that was posted in Nov 03, we're now in May 07, seems reasonable to have had an extra 4k added since that date

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Vinyl recordings of Rutherford etc

by veen in

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so i remember my grandmother having these old vinyl recordings with the dude ranting away.

do you think it would be worth me trying to getting hold of them, or are they already available in the public domain.

i wish i was a hardcore anti jw when i was younger 'cos i would listen to those beauties now, at the time i thought they were just boring.

bluebell

My dad has quite a few - some got broken or were very badly scratched so he chopped the middles out and uses those bits as coasters! best use they could be put to in my opinion.

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YOUR TYPE OF INTELLIGENCE..............

by fifi40 in

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howard gardner, a professor of education at harvard university, is renowned for laying out the theory of multiple intelligences (mi), which argues that the customary views of intelligence are too narrow.

whilst traditional iq tests measure verbal and mathematical skills, mi theory maintains that humans have multiple intelligences.. included in these are spatial, musical, bodily-kinesthetic (movement), interpersonal skills, intrapersonal and naturalist (understanding and classifying objects in nature).

so whilst some may not be to 'hot' on mathematics they may be great musicians or wonderful at understanding human beings.

bluebell

I'm not really very intelligent - took me ages to get out the "troof", but then didn't most of us, so I don't feel too bad about that. I've yet to discover my talent. I don't have enough commitment to see things through to be able to discover it in the first place!

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JW's versus RCC on child abuse

by TooBad TooSad in

it really is good news that the news of the recent settlement on the child abuse cases is coming out.

bad news is that probably 99% of the witnesses will not believe it or put a different spin on it.

the witnesses are.

bluebell

I hear you, as someone who was abused and who's sister knew about it and who's friends knew about it and yet I am the one who is shunned. They cannot/will not admit that there is a problem. When I was in I thought it was not a problem and that I was an exception to the rule in the way my case was dealt with.

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I can't talk to my parents.....

by Adolfius in

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as you can see from my posts i'm new here.

i was born and raised in the borg....dad was/is an elder.

i never liked the religion simply because it stopped me having fun like other "normal" kids.

bluebell

I don't know about trying to discuss something without losing your temper. but I can't ever argue my side of an argument that I feel strongly about without crying which amounts to the same kind of thing - detracting from your well made points.

Maybe if you tried to discuss it while out somewhere like a restaurant? Somewhere where you are likely to maintain an expected standard of behaviour? I prefer to go to a pub and sit in a corner to discuss things that may become emotionally charged because it forces me to keep control.

Also make sure that you know exactly what points you want to make before going, makes you sound more rational.

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Would you really want to live forever

by darth frosty in

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i just finished reading this book called the alchemist.

it is a very compelling story about following your dreams.

what i found most intriguing about the book is the depth of spirituality it brought out in me.

bluebell

Darth Frosty,
I have a question. I really cannot see clearly the tiny pictures people have with their names. Is that an extemely large banana you have in your hand?

lol quandry - i nearly wet myself - get yourself some glasses! roflmao

anyhow back to topic - yes i would like to live forever, just not the jw way. just because you may live forever doesn't mean you also shouldn't live for today.

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I can't talk to my parents.....

by Adolfius in

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as you can see from my posts i'm new here.

i was born and raised in the borg....dad was/is an elder.

i never liked the religion simply because it stopped me having fun like other "normal" kids.

bluebell

Maybe describe what you saw in Iraq to them - get their response - and then show them what they believe...?

Did you also know that if a child says s/he was sexually abused by someone in the congregation but the person denies it and there is no witness (we all know that a molester likes people to watch) then they take no action?