Posts by alotlikemay

46

If you could have over 3 people over for Dinner.

by new boy in

living or dead who would they be?.

1. jeaus.

2. egar cayce.

alotlikemay

very witty, you folks!

i'll opt for serious reply 'cos I can't match your wit

1. Sacha Baron Cohen (on the pretext that he's clever and funny... but actually because when he's not being Ali G or Borat he's just lovely to look at! mmm)

2. Mahatma Gandhi (no, Ben Kingsley, who played him in the film, will not do! the real thing was wise and sensitive and funny)

3. the apostle John (wow, he saw a whole lot of things over the decades of the first century... nice, loving man, too)

15

Why Cant You Just Accept That Its The Truth!

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

why cant you just accept that its the truth!problems occur in the jehovahs witness world when an individual decides to think for him or herself.

personally, i suffered a great deal in the truth because of independent thinkingthinking like satan.. what about youre experiences?as a witness, did you feel doubts or questions come into your mind and if you dared, .

voiced your opinion on the matter, were you disciplined for it?

alotlikemay

this is how it is IMO
God gave us a brain... most people don't even attempt to use it, which dishonours its/our creator...
God gave us the faculty of conscience... which the WTS has explained way back is individual to each one of us, we can train it.... so if we really want to honour our Creator then we should indeed train it and then use it.... as I used mine when it told me I couldn't stomach the teachings of the WTS any more...
God gave us all we need to fully inform ourselves about the Truth and to use our free will to act accordingly... and how wonderful for Him when we work it all out for ourselves (i.e. without having to be told/instructed) and then choose of our own volition to love him
and as a matter of fact what is the Bible definition of The Truth? check it out.... the Bible says Jesus = The Truth ... whether you like it or not, the Bible (that JWs are so fond of claiming as their own textbook) says Jesus is The Truth...

20

what did you "sacrifice" when you came in the Truth?

by skyclad in

i'm a newbie, bin lurking for days and bin doing so much research from your informative threads that my family think i'm possibly "comin back in the truth" =not!

this is my 1st post so forgive if already done before, but just wondered what you had to "sacrifice to come in the truth?

in my case, i was baptised in early 80's, my study conductor and all the dubs heavily drilled into us young-uns to sacrifice whatever it takes to please the org.

alotlikemay

first of all, i dropped out of uni after a year because I wanted to pioneer (and I did, for 20 years). I also stopped all my musical activity even though music had been a really important part of my life. I gradually dropped friends who weren't in the 'truth'. Most of all, I took it seriously when they said don't get married but pioneer because the time's so short. So, I'd be embarrassed when some brother took a liking to me and I wouldn't 'date' because that wasn't encouraged unless you intended to marry that person.

So, when I left at the age of 37, I had no career or career-type experience (I'd done lots of cleaning jobs and so on, because pioneering was the most important thing), and no money. Of course, all my JW friends abandoned me.

But the odd thing is that I've got most of it back - I went back to uni at the age of 37 and went through the whole academic system; I made lots of new friends gradually etc etc

However, it's now too late for me to have children. I'm too old for that. I'm not married and I have difficulties with relationships (because of my background, I think). I cry every day for the children I didn't have, that I gave up because I chose to pioneer because the 'time was short'

21

Abandonment

by reneeisorym in

most of the time i'm ok with the problem i'm about to discuss.

it just seems that occasionally it hurts me more than others.. for those of you who's family are all jws: it was hard to leave all of your family behind but for whatever reason, it made you happier to go than to stay.

after you left, did you ever get scared that those in your new life would abaondon you as well?

alotlikemay

I do worry a lot about being abandoned again. So much so I haven't really had a successful relationship since I left. When I feel someone get close to me, I test them (not deliberately, but subconsciously) and make them 'jump through hoops' to prove they love me and will stay with me, come what may. But ultimately I seem to always freeze in the end, because I can't believe this will last, so I look for the signs it'll end - and then I have to make sure it's me who puts an end to it before he does because I can't stand the thought of being rejected, it has to be me doing the rejecting.... I'm trying really hard to get over this but it's tough.

4

Sigmund Freud and Rutherford??

by bluebell in

someone suggested to me that rutherford (i think, they just said one of the founders) went to a talk by freud and incorporated hypnotism into the meetings.

they said that w/t study set up made you go tick tock between reader and conductor.

i thought it was funny.

alotlikemay

as for hypnotism, in a way the whole thing is based on hypnotism, isn't it? if hypnotism is basically focussing someone's mind on one thing, repeatedly, then that's what happens to JWs - they're fed the Armageddon - New System message so much, repeatedly, that it makes them super-submissive and susceptible to influence...

29

Upset & Need to Vent to Compassionate Ears

by FreeGirl2006 in

jw
friends

i am so grateful to have a place where my experiences being treated like one of the walking dead can be understood and empathized with.. i was opening my mail last night and there was a bill from local hospital.

i opened it a bit confused because i have not been in a hospital in 2 years.

it was a detailed bill for my stepson.

alotlikemay

i'm so sorry you're having this painful time. Unbelievable how callous people can be.

Thinking about you, sister

14

Abusive UK Foster Mother Caught--says she is JW

by blondie in

jw
friends

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/6449027.stm.

two decades of abuse went unseen the foster children of eunice spry face a lifetime of counselling, after suffering years of physical, mental and sexual abuse at her hands.

the abuse was not spotted by health professionals over a period of 20 years.

alotlikemay

this news just makes me shudder... and i'm so not surprised

16

Jesus

by alotlikemay in

i'm going to put my head on the block here... and possibly alienate some of you in doing so.

i'm new to the forum.

forgive me, i don't have time to read up the whole history of threads here, much as i'd love to, so if this subject has been discussed already (as i'm sure it must have) then apologies .

alotlikemay

Narkissos, thank you for sharing that with us. That story seems so familiar. They threatened my father with df because of Jesus. When my parents moved to my town, I moved in with them (I was a pioneer, it was more economical to do so) and the elders took me on one side to say that they didn't want me to move in with my parents because of my father's beliefs... I was speechless at such rudeness. Of course, I moved in with my parents! This elder also accepted an invitation to our house for dinner a couple years later when we thought it had blown over, and he just didn't turn up.... because of my Dad... all the preparation was wasted.

But I am proud that my father and I stood up for our beliefs. It caused huge upsets in our family because of the stress of it, but I'm proud we never gave in. Once when my Dad had been hauled in front of a committee, I went to pick him up from the Hall afterwards and the first thing I said to him, before anything else, was "Dad, you didn't deny Him, did you?" because to me it would have been far worse to deny Christ than to be df'd or the like.

Brother, I'm glad to 'meet' you.

29

Whats the strangest thing you've seen someone get in trouble for?

by LaniB in

jw
friends

i remember one windy summer day, after a meeting on sunday morning, i walked out of the hall behind a sister who was part of the church congregation with her two teenage children.

her husband did not attend.

the wind caught her dress unexpectedly and blew it up a'la marilyn monroe and revealed that she was wearing (shock, horror) french knickers...... there were a few murmers behind me which i at the time put down to things like "oh poor girl, so embarrassing".

alotlikemay

ps always remembering (before someone picks me up on it) that Tschaikovsky was famous as a composer :-)

29

Whats the strangest thing you've seen someone get in trouble for?

by LaniB in

jw
friends

i remember one windy summer day, after a meeting on sunday morning, i walked out of the hall behind a sister who was part of the church congregation with her two teenage children.

her husband did not attend.

the wind caught her dress unexpectedly and blew it up a'la marilyn monroe and revealed that she was wearing (shock, horror) french knickers...... there were a few murmers behind me which i at the time put down to things like "oh poor girl, so embarrassing".

alotlikemay

oh yeah and we were told categorically that the proceeds of Fleetwood Mac's famous album Rumours went to the British Witchcraft society or something like that, so we should throw any copies away (the brother giving the talk knew I had it and looked pointedly at me) as well as any other evil music.

and I did throw it out.... argh! that vinyl would be worth a fortune now, lol

well, maybe they were to do with witchcraft but if we start picking and choosing our music based on the private lives of the performers we'll end up listening to nothing, I mean, that puts Tschaikovsky out for a start!