I called WTS a few mins ago (for a bit of fun) to ask about birthdays. After being transferred 3 times and older man (who said he’s 50 yrs in the org) came on…I told him I am not a JW but was wondering if I could invite JW friends to my son’s b-day party, and if they went if they’d be dfed. He asked me if and how I am associated with the JWs. I said I am not. Then he proceeded. He never answered if they’d be dfed. He stated 2 bad examples and the murder resulting…then QUICKLY went on to talk about the day of ones death being better than ones birth and started to expand on that- a good way to change the topic. Added his point that JWs LOVE to talk to and be with people. And closed out by saying that JWs have SUCH a busy schedule.
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19How about birthdays?
by molybdenum inhi... i'm a newbie here.
i have been associated with jw's for quite some time however there is one aspect of being a witness that i can't quite come to terms with that is the prohibition on celebrating a person's birthday i have of course read the arguments for this but find them somewhat unconvincing.
is it really the case that everyone follows this direction?
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Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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kicky
yeah, probably some JW lurker made it up to mess with us. After all, we are not entitled to know the truth, right? LOL
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Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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kicky
Commentary Press actually gave me an adress I can write to Ray at. He is still open to correspondence.
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Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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kicky
Is his wife still a JW? Does she go to meetings?
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Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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kicky
Hi
What I posted was an actual email I sent to Commentary Press at 10:24 AM today, they replied quickly to me at 10:54PM. It was an actual reply form them
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Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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kicky
Hi, A rumor circulated on JW discussion board that Ray Franz is now going back to JW meetings. Is this true or simply a rumor? Thanks
Dear Sir:
It is a rumor and has no foundation whatsoever.
Sincerely,
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Marrying a non-witness
by why??? inthis is my first post and im nervous but i've read many so far.
my situation is this im going to be 21 in june and i'm in love with my boyfriend but he not a witness and i am( i have been my entire life) my parent found out and forbid me to see him and even told me to leave, i did leave for a day, but they called me back.
but they still hate that i have any contact with him...and we still want to get married.
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kicky
not a dfing issue. BUT the elders may well try to discourage it. They may even try to weave into the conversation whether or not you beleive the FSD is God's channel of communication.....to see if your line of thinking is "apostate"
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How can scipture be used to dispute a JW when they alone understand it?
by The Dragon ini hear and see this alot.....debates consisting of two sides picking and hurling scriptures at one another to back up their assertions and guesses...it usually goes nowhere but wastes time and energy that could be more productivily used.. problem being is...in the case of the dubs...they believe that they and their leaders/teachers alone are being granted divine understanding...and you are trying to convince them they do not understand the book they wrote, and what they were trying to say in it basically.
they are allowed to pick and choose what is to be taken literal and figurelative without opposition...and should you point this out..you are in effect calling their leaders and trusted teachers liars.
you would have better luck convincing hitler what exactly he meant and really wanted from his book mien krap...could you convince him he really didn't have a clue and you knew it better than him?
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kicky
Learn how to show them how to calculate 587 using Alleymom's KISS approach, which only requires access to Watchtower litterature or a WT CD. I have the WTCD. What, or where is the alleymoms kiss approach? is there a link to it?
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Need some help re:Trinity scriptures
by Junction-Guy ini have a pamphlet somewhere in this apartment that i cant seem to find, it deals with the nwt not consistenly rendering the logos, ho-theos, and theos.
they translate these words inconsistently as lord,jehovah,jesus, etc etc etc.. .
what i need to know are scriptures where these words arent rendered consistently.
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kicky
read Heb 1:10-12- It is obviosuly the Father addressing the Son. Then go to cross reference Ps 102:25-7. Obviously a prayer to Jehovah. In Fact starting in verse 1 we see it is speaking of Jehovah, still in verse 12 it is of Jehovah. Verse 24 says "Oh my God..."
If the NWT was consistent Heb 1:10-12 would say "You at the beginning Oh Jehovah..." and we would have the Father addressing the Son with his own name
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Have the dubs got their May 1st WT yet??
by cultswatter insome dubs have got the may 15 wt but not the may 1st wt.
when the dubs finally get the may 1st wt will they even notice the 1935 doctrine changes??.
anyway, have they got the may 1st wt yet?.
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kicky
Is Raymond Franz open for correspondence- either written or email? I'd love to converse with him.