Oops, I did it again! [:0]
billy must be an elder who never had oral sex or a young kid who is afraid to try because of what he has been told. Too bad billy, you are missing out on some great fun. Bad breath does not enter into the picture....
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
Oops, I did it again! [:0]
billy must be an elder who never had oral sex or a young kid who is afraid to try because of what he has been told. Too bad billy, you are missing out on some great fun. Bad breath does not enter into the picture....
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
billy-your editing your replys after you posted is a sure sign you cannot spell. Try high school....it really will help. You may want to set up a remedial reading program at your congregation.
By the way, do you not like oral sex? You still have not answered!
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
billy-you really need to work on your grammer. Your spelling is terrible. Are you an elder?
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
Just to be clear, billy said we were "loosers"--he obviously stopped going to high school to pioneer.
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
I guess now that I am out of the WTS, I am "looser."
I love oral sex!!!! Do you billy?
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
I think YK got his information from Miss Cleo and won't admit it.
i have been drifting for about 1 1/2 years now and was hoping that in a year or two i would have distanced myself enough from the org.
that i can actually start living my life exactly the way i want to...aka celebrating the holidays by putting lights on the house, not having to tell my daughter not to say anything about going trick or treating, getting birthday presents or going to cheerleader camp.
but i read some posts in the disfellowhiping thread started by somebody where people have been inactive for 3 years and are still disfellowhiped!
Hello,
I just stumbled on this thread. I brought this question up a few days ago. I was wondering if I should try to get officially df'd or disassociate myself. I faded away about 17 years ago. I got some really good advice. Basically, I was told to let sleeping dogs lie. I have been out of the local congragations physical local for years. My family, on my mother's side, is also all JW. I do not want to put them in a position of having to choose between a relationship with me or with the JW's. I would lose. My mother speaks to my df's sister, so I do not see her shunning me. I do think the rest of the family might.
I found some of the comments here interesting. At a recent, (just last week) family gathering, I brought up the UN issue to a cousin who is very, ardent. He listened intently and said it was a bunch of balony and even if they were in the UN, it was because they had a good reason. I gave up. Now I am concerned he might take those comments and "turn me in." I am not going to lose sleep over it though.
some posters to this board, who perhaps are bored posters, have been out of the wts for a long while, some for decades.
i think i understand why you still feel the need to meet here but just wished to hear from you personally.. how long have you been out?
why do you still feel the need to discuss and involve yourselves with jw issues?
hillary_step-radar and drahcir yarrrum both brought up why I am out and why I find this web site very interesting. My family, on my mothers side, are all JW. At a recent family gathering, many tried to get me back in. I like the reassurance that I am not the only person out there who went through some trying times. Everyone has similar stories and it really helps me to read about thier issues. I relate to many. This web site, as well as the related links, has given me some valuable information to debate with.
I have been out, unofficially, for approximately 17 years. I stopped going out in service, stopped going to meetings etc. I do not recall any effort on the part of my family or the elders to try to get me back. That is what is strange. I am married to a wonderful catholic gentleman, who is at church right now.
i was baptised as a jw when i was about 12. i dropped out when i was about 19. i just stopped going to meetings and going in service.
it is now 20 years later.
i am interested in learning about other religions.
Thank you Roybatty-that is good to know. I have never brought this up to my mother. She would "freak!".
Any information on why catholics are so disliked? (besides the fact they are not JW) If I do speak with a priest, I would at least like to sound semi-intelligent.
i was baptised as a jw when i was about 12. i dropped out when i was about 19. i just stopped going to meetings and going in service.
it is now 20 years later.
i am interested in learning about other religions.
Room 215 and Utopian Reformist:
I do live off the radar of the elders in the congregation where I grew up. My mother still goes there, however, she speaks to my sister who is disfellowshipped. My other relatives speak to her also, in spite of her being disfellowshipped. My sister was disfellowshipped 20 years ago for fornication. If I tried to break ties now, my mother, I think, would take that much more seriously. Which is what everyone is pointing out. I had not thought it out. I am going to do nothing. However, I would like to explain.
I have been debating religion with my husband for approximately 15 years. He was raised a catholic and, similar to me, he just kind of faded away. Until about 4 years ago. He now goes to chruch every Sunday. I have gone a few times, however, being raised a JW, I find it hard to listen to what is going on. I am distracted by the crosses and the communion thing. My husband and I had a very long discussion a few nights ago about religion. He does not believe that I really do not have faith in a "God." He thinks I just had a bad experience as a JW and if I meet a nice priest, I will change my mind. I am not an aethestic, however, I would say I am agnostic. He thinks a priest will change my mind. He is not a true believer in the bible; he thinks it is a lot of fables that were told numerous times until someone figured out how to write them down. He believes that human interpretation changed the stories so many times, there is no way we will ever really know what happened 6000 years ago. I agree with that.
I agreed, after numerous attempts by him, to speak to a priest. I am more interested in why they hold women back, don't allow birth control and a few other things. I told my husband I will not become a catholic. I do not believe in organized religion. After my experiences with the JW's I do not think any religion is much different. All use social and lifestyle controls to control people.
I am not searching for a new religion, so much as really curious as to why the JW's hate the catholics so much. (that much I remember)