It is natural for humans to form close personal bonds. It promotes healthy relationships and a healthy self esteem - from the dawn of our small step for mankind onto planet Earth! The WTBTS demands your entire allegiance be placed in its literature so that you will have no bonds for normal life without its express permission. In effect it demands you bond to it stronger than to any human being. That way it is in complete control of your life, spouse, children, relatives, friends etc. I cannot see that is love! I cannot think it my business to tell you or anyone who to relate to and become intimate with at a social or any other level. It is why when you are out you feel so surreal. You have attempted to form your most close personal friendship (soul-mate) with an evolving treadmill of literature. It is inhumane!
R.Crusoe
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Strange thing - the menatility of the disfellowshipped
by Billzfan23 ini was in target the other day with this girl that i have been dating for a few weeks - we were browing around, she was getting some housewares for a new apartment that she is moving in to..but that's neither here nor there... .
i turn the corner - and there stand a couple of dubs that were assigned to my book study when i was an elder last year.
one of them is 24 years old, the other is around 18 or 19 now.
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What was the first mean/unjust thing you saw as a JW that affected you?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inthink back.
you can list more than one.
.it's ok. how did you rationalize the actions of others?
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R.Crusoe
This is a general observation and maybe unique to me - but I suspect not. When I threw myself into JW life, fresh outa my teens, with baby and a newly converted wife (baptized together), I expected to be making very close friends amongst these people claiming to be unique amongst humans in their fruits of gods spirit. So as time went by and I wasn't bonding with anyone in particular whilst my ex wife was doing very nicely, I became utterly perplexed. And so I read more and more to see if I needed to adjust myself in some way to be more accepted and feel I belonged amongst them. The lifers always spoke but getting close to them seemed impossible and in retrospect maybe their view of me was not so accepting as I was of them. Now this same atmosphere established itself in my marriage and I tell you a truth when I say I can't recall a single conversation I ever had with my ex which involved her reasoning with me (20yrs) in ways which displayed a concern for my feelings, in spite of my ravenous appetite for stimulating debate at an emotional/ intellectual level! I was just a worker ant! I look back and don't get it! I think the only close up and personal friend any hardcore JW can have is the WTBTS literature. I think they fear genuine human bonding - now that is mean and cruel but only my perspective as I'm aware.
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Life is Short...and you ain't gettin' any Younger!
by Magick innow that you are free.. away from the long arm of the society.. what would you like to do that you couldn't do as a witness?.
what's keeping you from doing it?.
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R.Crusoe
Arriving too late is a de ja vous that I have unintentionally made a way of life!
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Did you had the "right heart condition" when you accepted the truth?
by truthseeker ininteresting question i think.. the society says we "search out deserving ones" and "those rightly disposed", those who have "the right heart condition" - did you ever feel this was you when you accepted the truth?
did you feel that jehovah thought you as a deserving one?.
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R.Crusoe
I had an overwhelming heart condition which was so sincere it took far too long for me to realize how uninformed and misplaced it was. But then that's why I've so often ended up on the side of the road whilst most of humanity flies past. It's foolish for a football coach to insist a player carry the manual whilst in the middle of a game. I spent too much time in the manual whilst most folks who'd been in it for years were playing a game! I should've listened to Bill Shankly who was my teenage guru after dad died but at the time - so had he!
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YOUR DAILY JOURNAL
by compound complex indear friends,.
much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.
however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.
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R.Crusoe
I disturbed a bat the other day in my attic by threading some twin core earth 5 amp lighting cable over the insulation just below the eaves. It must have entered via a hole I'd left in the wall that I'd left since I changed my mind about the location of a new boiler. There are a number of bats in surrounding houses eaves which come out at dusk to feed on mosquitoes each evening. I wasn't aware I'd disturbed it until I went down the two flights of stairs to my living room. I heard it wings flapping as it circled the room at about 1 revolution per 3/4 seconds. I switched on the light, confused by the noise, and was surprised by the size of its wingspan - it being 8 or 9 inches since the bats I'd previously seen appeared smaller. Anyway, I was worried in case I frightened it because I've previously captured a mouse by hand which died from the shock. I closed both doors to confine it to the room and crouched to make my way over to the window. Its echo location must've sensed my presence because it flew a couple of figure eights so close to my head that the beat of its wings could be felt on my ears and down my neck. I had to unlock the restrictors on the sash style window so as to open it as far out as possible. I then propped it ajar with a long piece of studding and waited to see how it managed. It flew out into the night sky and left me feeling overjoyed at how amazing they are and how I'd had the chance to be so close with it circling my head. Excellent! I blocked the hole up so it doesn't get trapped up there after I plaster the ceiling. It will likely go back to its previous home which may be in a smaller roof space of my house which has an iron grate for access but which is inaccessible from inside the house. It will soon be time for me to leave. Finances demand it!
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A Christian we could all learn from.....
by sweetstuff ini just watched a movie about william wilberforce, who i had no prior knowledge of, great movie, amazing grace and given the large amount of debate lately on here regarding christianity versus atheisim, i thought what better example of someone who's religious beliefs drove him to make improvements for all of mankind.
i am not a christian, but i think if we all tried to more humanitarian like this man, only good could come from it .
he is someone to me, that embodies all that christanity should be, by his actions.. perhaps he would have become the same man, without christianity, perhaps not.
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R.Crusoe
Compassion of all humans is what I would put forward as an essential common goal for mankind. It is evident in people from all groups wherever you go. It is confinement to a unique system of belief which promotes division and conflict. In order to become compassionate one has to learn how to instruct humans to accept difference but the difficulty is in making this a simultaneous reality for all groups in which case we would still have American Indians, Aborigines and Maoris etc. ruling their homelands! Peacemakers are very susceptible to being crucified and obliterated! It is a paradox because surely everyone would prefer a world which avoided conflict, suffering and premature death. Observation shows otherwise! And the irony is when preservation of the peacemakers results in them taking up arms so that they replicate the militants they seek to dissolve which then usurps their status as peacemakers.
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Trauma center refuses to treat JWs?
by sacrebleu ini read this in an article written about jws.. is it true that a major trauma center in florida refuses to treat jws?.
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R.Crusoe
I would assume it has something to do with insurance, risk assessment and litigation. Just a hunch. I wouldn't assume it's a personal agenda on the part of staff but what do I know?
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OK, Let's think this out
by purplesofa inlet's say.......there is no god, the bible is not inspired by god........ but.
what is written is being played out.. is what is written being played out?.
why don't we change the future?.
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R.Crusoe
Reason we cant do that is there are too many psychological languages to cooperate effectively as well as one giant heap of historical agendas to settle by people whose psychological language has all the letters of revenge in its alphabet.
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Deal more kindly with one another...preserve and cherish the pale blue dot
by nvrgnbk inpowerful words by carl sagannovember 15, 2006 in smartkit all posts by rk.
if you look carefully at the nasa photo below, you will see a little white dot.
this minute speck is earth seen from the voyager 1 spacecraft as it exits the solar system, nearly 4 billion miles away.
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R.Crusoe
Nice pic and concept. And it always amazes me to think how many billions of thoughts per second are materializing in peoples minds accompanied by emotions that seem to them so powerful and important. It does make you wonder why we have them and why they, more than many things in our present day seem to be influencing the future evolution of Earth so greatly.
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Apostate Presence Rattles World Conference on Religion
by SickofLies ini know many of you probably never saw my post a few days ago inviting everyone to the world religions conference where i was a key note speaker.
i'd like to send a big thank you to kwintestal and mincan for showing and giving their support, surfice to say it made quite an impression that the three people standing up and defending atheism at the event were all ex-witnesses.
the theme for the event was on the topic of morals and modesty.
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R.Crusoe
Some atheist ideology promotes clear thinking and liberation of individuals rights to empower themselves with confidence about taking a stand for what they may have always felt. It is the over concentration of religious ideology everywhere you go that tends to pressure some individuals into following adult/parental pressure. I tell you truly today that my father never once tried to influence my belief in Gods existence even though he never attended a church. That left my mother empowered to insist I regularly attended whilst she rarely ever did because and just because it made her proud to think her son stood on the altar and was an example of some sort. It is so true that I only ever got up as often as I did, alone and without anyone, to run to church to be on the altar just to keep up this duty to please and obey a mother when really my heart only ever wanted to please my father who never discussed it with me. In this respect, this alternative needs a voice so that children of tomorrow have more choices in harmonizing their adult activities with their personal childhood beliefs and NOT with the beliefs of influential others. It is a coming out of the individuals spirituality that needs liberating and not a whole scale ideology based upon a selection of choices that all insist on a belief in things illogical and unprovable, foisted on a child who doesn't know any different. In this respect the fact that the talk seemed like another organization looking for converts is a good thing! I say this as someone who believes in a creator even though my soul has learned to reject the idea that collections of ancient writings are the master key to Him. I veer more towards a humanitarian perspective but am not sure if that is a good/god thing long term because as we all know - power corrupts and any large following will attract individuals with a political agenda who try to control things. Que sera. May humanitarianism prevail.