Posts by Faraon

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A MUSLIM Guide to Ccountering JWs

by Lady Lee in

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http://www.jamaat.net/comp/jw/jw.html

i didn't even know this kind of info was out there

Faraon

Lady Lee,

Surfin' the net, and starting from a link provided from the Muslim site, I came across the following from a Jewish site. This is about how they contradict themselves when they say they are the only Christians.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/JW/loveofmoney.html

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things that make you go AGGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!

by lurk in

kingdom melodies did it for me everytime.. i tired so hard not to have uncharitable thoughts about the ppl who wrote the tunes and words to the kingdom melodies.

there were about 2 that i could stomach.. the rest were so totally uninspiring and mechanical.. .i can say that apart from maybe 2 i didnt get any up lifting joy from them.. elders complained that ppl wern't learning the tunes and singing properly.they got realy irritated over it .but i really really hate the dam songs .

eveyone sounded totally joyless

Faraon

Have you ever giving it a thought to use the music (not the words) as the background music in an orgy as a way to express your feelings of f**king the WT?

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Dogs don't know it's not bacon. They can't read!

by peacefulpete in

in the early decades ce literally hundreds of cults arose.

in part this was due to the exposure to farflung cultures and cults that were arriving in palestine the last few centuries bc and ce.

roman world) who could write and read fluently.'.

Faraon

SFJ,

That's why they drew fish on the walls.

I knew there was something fishy about them.

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"A fool will believe anything." PROVERBS 14:15

by yxl1 in

original article can be found at: http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/article_03.htm

do not be a victim of propaganda!

"a fool will believe anything.

Faraon

Caspian,

So I was either a fool for 36 years of my life or deceived hhmmmmmmm!

In AL words,

You can fool some of the people some of the time,
You can fool all of the people some of the time,
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

I guess we belong to the first group

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What Happened in 1995?

by missylissy in

i was just reading this post http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/61878/1.ashx.

they were talking about what they felt about what happened in 1995. but, i dont know what happened in 1995.. .

what did happen?.

Faraon

#6,

The gentile times were 7 x 360 years (a day for a year) minus no year zero = 1914 CE.
Armageddon would begin before the generation that saw the events of 1914 were all dead.

Yes but they calculated the years to be 360 days instead of 365.25, which would add another 36.75 years, and the date would be moved to 1951, tops. Taking into account the 80 year generation thing, we still have until 2031until the charred bodies bring big J an aroma pleasing to the LORD.

or

We can come closer to that date in order to get the unpaid sales slaves to declare that the generation before the big barbeque will only survive after heaven was closed in 1935. It will only be until 2015 that all non-members of our club will be food for the birds.

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a closed mind, a requirement?

by peacefulpete in

galatians opens with the direction to not listen to opposing religious views.

it goes so far as to say that even if they (ostensibly paul and his party) or an angel from heaven presents another opinion, they must refuse to listen even then condemning the messenger as an enemy.

ironically this very obstinance is condemned among the jews in the bible, when they supposedly refused to listen to the new direction from the christians,jesus and even the angels who according to the story announced this new faith's arrival.

Faraon

Gumby,

Revealed how?

Do you mean that people should believe what a person said was revealed to them? If Paul, or Peter, or John said something was revealed to him.....I should believe him?

Why should I believe Peter or John, or anybody else who has said we have to believe jesus came and died for us, and we must believe that or die? Galations reads we must not believe every inspired expression........only the one you are REQUIRED to believe in......or die.

Agree, but also note the silliness of the following quote from Galatians 1:8:

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you?

Never mind that it is an angel (messenger) from heaven brings changes, just like the NT writers brought to you in order to change the OT. You must not listen to it (angels have no gender).

As a matter of fact, Gal. 1:8 claims that even if they change their mind (I supposed it means early church leaders), change their mind, they should be not listened to.

If we apply this text to JW doctrine, there should be NO NEW LIGHT, as they should not be listened to because it is a different teaching than their original one.

In the time of Jesus and the apostles, the most read version, even in Judea, of the Babble was the Septuagint. As you know this was so inspired that all the 70 translators ;) had exactly the same translation word for word. Nowadays this version is not used by anyone except the Catholics. When Paul said that all scripture is inspired, blah, blah, blah, he was talking about the Septuagint and not the NT.

The GB makes decisions based on two thirds of the vote. This means that, at least in some decisions, part of their executives were not inspired by the Holey Spook. Yet, they insinuate that their god sent its decisions, and they let everyone else know.

The same thing happened in the OT and the NT. Majority of votes or decisions are enforced by the most powerful or majority of votes. Many of the gospels in existence at the time came into oblivion.

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a closed mind, a requirement?

by peacefulpete in

galatians opens with the direction to not listen to opposing religious views.

it goes so far as to say that even if they (ostensibly paul and his party) or an angel from heaven presents another opinion, they must refuse to listen even then condemning the messenger as an enemy.

ironically this very obstinance is condemned among the jews in the bible, when they supposedly refused to listen to the new direction from the christians,jesus and even the angels who according to the story announced this new faith's arrival.

Faraon

Sorry, It should've read

The Jehovah?s Witnesses god, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, on the other hand, will only bring apostates an emotional and psychological death because they are unable to act, as [or due to the fact that] agents of Satan (UN, USA, England) will prevent them from killing apostates.

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a closed mind, a requirement?

by peacefulpete in

galatians opens with the direction to not listen to opposing religious views.

it goes so far as to say that even if they (ostensibly paul and his party) or an angel from heaven presents another opinion, they must refuse to listen even then condemning the messenger as an enemy.

ironically this very obstinance is condemned among the jews in the bible, when they supposedly refused to listen to the new direction from the christians,jesus and even the angels who according to the story announced this new faith's arrival.

Faraon

Hooverus,

The basic essential of the faith expressed in Deuteronomy 13 is that Isrealites were only to have YHWH as their God.
The basic essential of the faith expressed in Galatians 1 is that Christians were to hold to the gospel of the grace of Christ.

Let us examine the essentials of the faith expressed in Deuteronomy 13 and Galatians 1

Deuteronomy 13

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. 12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt. 17 None of those condemned things [2] shall be found in your hands, so that the LORD will turn from his fierce anger; he will show you mercy, have compassion on you, and increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your forefathers, 18 because you obey the LORD your God, keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.

In other words:

Kill any one, even close relatives, who has a different religious opinion. Do not listen to him. He is an apostate.

Do this because I am unable to investigate it myself or kill them myself.

You must be my eyes, ears, and murdering agents.

Galatians 1
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel?7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

In other words:

You cannot change your mind. If you became an apostate, and change your mind, by the grace of Christ, who has a bigger stick, You will be in hell forever. That means longer than if a bird came from heaven and took a drop of water every million years, you will still burn in hell after the Earth has no more water. All of this by the grace of Loving Jesus!

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The Jehovah?s Witnesses god, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, on the other hand, will only bring apostates an emotional and psychological death because they are unable to act as agents of Satan (UN, USA, England) will prevent them from killing apostates.

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is there EVER a justification for killing children?

by zen nudist in

numbers 31:17,18 now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

duet.

21:20-21 and they shall say unto the elders of his city, this our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard.

Faraon

Well, If you promise Jehovah you will murder your daughter in burned offering if you win a battle, you must do so.

After all, women are mere property of a man.

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Don't work too hard !

by Simon in

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(and also i guess "chose carefully who you work with"!

).

Faraon

So, um, what the hell? He would have started smelling by then, and his skin would have been black and bloated.
I just can't understand how people cannot see a decomposing body in the office! OMG, THE STINK

Remember, This is New York. There are a lot of black and fat people. As for the stink, This is New York!