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  The Bible is a very mean spirited book.

  by libra_spirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember at one point in my life believing that the new testament taught love as the greatest command.

  for the last week i have been rereading the new testament.

  mathew, and revelation so far.

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  Faraon

  Ok, I think that last one deserves to have a little box by itself:
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  The Bible is a very mean spirited book.

  by libra_spirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember at one point in my life believing that the new testament taught love as the greatest command.

  for the last week i have been rereading the new testament.

  mathew, and revelation so far.

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  Faraon

  Libra_spirit,

  I would advice you not to throw the bible. You’ll need it as reference. If you don’t do this, they will convince you eventually that there is a god. They usually mean that this god is Yahweh.

  You must also learn opposing views. Besides the one recommended by seven006, you can check:

  http://home.inu.net/skeptic/

  http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

  http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/jesus_myth.htm

  http://www.holysmoke.org/hs.htm

  http://www.ffrf.org/lfif/contra.html

  http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/Smcroberts/index.html

  http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/smcdownlds/GdWd3.html

  http://home.xnet.com/~blatura/left_hem.shtml

  http://home.xnet.com/~blatura/skeptic.shtml - contents

  http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html - lll

  http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/smcdownlds/GdWdActs.html

  http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/smcdownlds/GdWdGosp.html

  Seven006’s site ( http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com ) is good but by no means complete. He is missing many verses. It also lacks mistranslations, omissions and outright lies cited in the NT from the old.

  The book that opened my eyes was “Is it God’s word” by Joseph Wheless, who was a judge and an ambassador to Mexico. He wrote his books from a law perspective. It is written in old English, so it is no easy reading. He also wrote “Forgery in Christianity” which deals with the lies in Early Christianity. Both books can be seen free online at http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_wheless/index.shtml

  If you want some laughs I recommend http://www.landoverbaptist.org Especially their quizzes at http://www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html

  I can also recommend you some books. They go into more details, but you’d have to spend some money. Faraon.
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  Are there any teachers on this board?

  by logansrun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i'm thinking about becoming a high school teacher.

  i'm finishing up a summer course at my community college and will be going to northeaster illinois university in the fall.

  i've been thinking about majoring in biology and secondary education (instead of history and secondary ed.).

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  Faraon

  I am an elementary teacher in Chicago.

  I would definiterly not recomment teaching as a first option in a career.

  Teaching has become more bureaucratic than pedagogic.
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  First District Convention of 2003 in Rockford, Illinois

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.rrstar.com/localnews/your_community/rockford/20030525-5467.shtml

  baptism questions.

  6/1/85 wt page 30 on the basis of the sacrifice of jesus christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to jehovah to do his will?do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovahs witnesses in association with gods spirit-directed organization?.

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  Faraon

  Blondie,

  I wonder what made them change the assembly [plant for robots] from Chicago to Rockford.

  Does anybody have any idea?
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  Watchtower = Pharisees

  by drwtsn32 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts always talks about how wrong it was for the pharisees to make an endless number of rules.

  but the wts is guilty of the same thing.

  you can't have a beard... you can't watch rated r movies... you must report your field service activity... you cannot go to costume parties... you can have some blood fractions but not whole blood... you can't read any stuff that is against our opinion... yadda yadda yadda.. my mom (an active jw) argues that theses are not rules but only guidelines.

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  Faraon

  Where did the beard rule come from anyway, what the deal on that

  It came because Rutheford was jealous of Russell's popularity. Since he could not grow a decent beard, he decreed against it.

  The WT even drew Jesus without a beard for a time.
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  Watchtower = Pharisees

  by drwtsn32 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts always talks about how wrong it was for the pharisees to make an endless number of rules.

  but the wts is guilty of the same thing.

  you can't have a beard... you can't watch rated r movies... you must report your field service activity... you cannot go to costume parties... you can have some blood fractions but not whole blood... you can't read any stuff that is against our opinion... yadda yadda yadda.. my mom (an active jw) argues that theses are not rules but only guidelines.

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  Faraon

  I think that it is unfair to compare the Watchtower and its followers to the Pharisees. Compare the following texts of the bible to their teachings or to a more modern interpretation. You will see why.

  Matt 3: 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

  8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

  9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

  10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

  7. O generation of worldly people, who warned you to flee from Armageddon, which will occur at the end of the Generation of 1914?

  8. Come to the meetings regularly for months, come after and leave before everyone. After that you can sell some books, magazines, and tracts to show repentance. Also get some book studies.

  9. Think not to say within yourselves, We have the organization to our mother.

  10. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every publisher which not fulfills their obligations is disfellowshipped and murdered in Armageddon.

  Matthew 5:20

  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the other sheep, and are not part of the 144,000 ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven

  Matthew 9:11-13

  And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

  And when the Governing Body saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth Ray Franz with his landlord and the disfellowshipped? The ones that are sick must be separated so that they do not contaminate the congo with apostate material.

  Matthew 9:14

  14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?

  They fast. Most of them cannot afford to eat a full meal if they work part-time doing menial jobs. No higher education, you know.

  Matthew 9:34

  But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils.

  But the JWs said, He casteth out Smurfs through the prince of the Smurfs. Anyway, only Jah can cast out devils, or us through prayer to him. That is because he only listens to our prayers.

  Matthew 12:2

  But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

  But when the Superintendents saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the Meeting days. They work, or even dare to get sick.

  Matthew 12:14

  Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

  Then the elders went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him by disfellowshiping him and separating him from his family and “friends”.

  Matthew 12:38

  Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

  Then certain of the NWT translators and of the GB answered, saying, Mister, we would see a dollar sign from thee.

  Matthew 15

  1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,

  2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

  Their congregation is a clean one. They teach their followers to clean after every meeting, and to wash their hands one hundred times a day.

  Matthew 15

  3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

  4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

  Hey, they honor them if they are in good standing with the congo and are not disfellowshipped, marked, or disassociated.

  Matthew 15

  8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

  9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

  The following commandments are clear from the bible:

  You must not celebrate birthdays because two people died while celebrating birthdays.

  You must not join the YMCA or the Boy/Girl scouts.

  You must attend three weekly meetings, publish a minimum of 10 hrs/wk, have a personal study, etc.

  You must not display a beard. Especially after Russell is dead.

  You must wear a tie if you are a male in a meeting.

  You must blindly change your mind to New Light.

  You must not vaccinate. This is eating blood, and therefore cannibalism, until the WT changes its mind.

  You must not have an organ or tissue transplant. This is cannibalism. See above.

  You must not have a transfusion (tissue transplant) unless given in fractions or hemoglobin unless it is from HemoPure and made from cows' milk BLOOD

  You must become a conscientious objector to the armed forces, even as a non-combatant until the WT changes its mind.

  You must not vote in your country or hold a voters card until the WT changes its mind.

  You must use the rod to discipline your kid, unless until she is big enough to beat you back.

  You must take false prophecies given by the Watchtower as expectations, and blame yourself. If you don’t believe the current prophecy and say it out loud. You shall be cut off from the WT and destroyed at Armageddon.

  Etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam.
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  WT video "Protect Your Children" wins Award! (gag)

  by badwillie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://jw-media.org/edu_videos/psa4e2856.htm

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  Faraon

  Gentlemen, As I understand it, you are an award group involved with the video "Protect Your Children" To begin with, please visit a Jehovah's Witnesses kingdom hall for two or three weeks. More than likely you will hear cries and slaps from children being taken by their mothers to get spanked in the washroom. MSNBC aired a special last May dealing with how the Watchtower protects pedophiles within the congregation. Ask the congregation librarian to show you the book that JW parents are supposed to show their teachers. Their children are not supposed to play in team sports after school. They constantly discourage higher education. They have a ruling by which people are supposed to shun their own parents or their children if they are disfellowshipped or they change religion. Enough said. Check any Internet site that does not subscribe to their beliefs, and you will find the truth about this family destructor. Sincerily

  Will this do?
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  If you could spend a whole day with anyone .......

  by azaria in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dead (resurrected ) or alive who would you choose?.

  mood barometer: a little melancholy, but basically .

  every once in a while i think of who i would like to meet.

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  Faraon

  The only one I ever worshipped,

  My Father.
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  JWs Among The Detained

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  america international is highly critical of the continued detention of hundreds of people in eritrea, including politicians, diplomats, businessmen, and journalists.

  jws are being held for refusal to perform military service.

  see the story "rights group urges release of detainees" at.

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  Faraon

  So now the JWs are being disfellowshipped from this country for not following the rules of their governing body?
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  June 2003 KM- 'Should Christians Use Slang?'

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1 slang has been defined as 'facetious figures of speech'.

  when used improperly, it may cause embarassment and confusion to an individual.

  it may even stumble those 'who have ears' that listen.yes, prayerful consideration is needed before one lets a word utter forth from his mouth.. 2 it has been said that in nebraska (usa) a male co-worker said to another co-worker that a female co-worker was "drop-dead beautiful".

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  Faraon

  Funchback,

  You almost had me going there except that you forgot to include the Minimum Required Dose of three NWT verses per paragraph. You almost made it by citing obscure references, though.