https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.
let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..
Thank you cedars ,cappytan , Lloyd , and others . for producing this video ,is there some way it can be sent to the media ? ( all forms ) and just get it out their in the public domain ? It needs widespread distribution , especially while the focus is on child sexual abuse in the U.K. , the U.S.A. and of course Australia , and elsewhere .
This is the time it needs widespread coverage , how do we do it ?
smiddy
leave it to the deep south.. sad.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/03/01/louisiana-judge-rules-that-priests-dont-have-to-report-abuse-if-they-hear-it-during-confession/?utm_source=silverpopmailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=friendlyatheist_030116utc050309_daily&utm_content=&spmailingid=50816439&spuserid=mty4mdi2oty3odkws0&spjobid=880120009&spreportid=odgwmtiwmda5s0.
If a priest hears a confession of someone committing a murder , he`s not bound to report this to the police ?
If that is still the case then obviously that law needs to be changed .The principle of the church being a sanctuary is so outdated , if it still applies ,it should be adjusted to our modern times.
Why aren`t the Jehovah`s Witnesses challenged more when they claim Clergy Penintent as a reason for not providing documents held by them that the law requires and asks for.?
The official stand of the Jehovah`s Witnesses is , they do not have a Clergy Class within their religion , so why do they get away with invoking this clause..?
smiddy
a jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
As I have said before , many people slacken off in service , meetings , etc , and even become inactive , however because they seemingly leave the "truth" , the "truth" never leaves them , they may only attend the memorial once a year , and they still consider themselves a Jehovah`s Witness regardless of what others think of them.
smiddy
good morning from the east coast.
i have a question.
a friend of mine texted me and one of the things she said was that they were getting a lot of great responses with the campaign because they are showing the video.
The fact that the G.B. now expects witnesses to show a video inviting the public to this event, just emphasizes to me they have little confidence in the R&F to do so effectively .
In other words the d2d preaching done now a days is ineffective due to the poor teaching programs conducted by the organization ,
I can understand how, naive J.W.`s are getting all excited about this new approach , however the fact remains , it`s not going to convince anyone J.W.`s are the truth, and should be investigated further.
No mention that the invited person is just an observer and not a participant.
It carefully obscures how Jesus was crucified , on a stake and not a cross.
And what is different from tele-evangelism and this video really .
smiddy
i'm not sure how useful this post will be, but i feel compelled to write it.
with many of my older posts, i wrote them with a younger jw version of me in mind.
with this i write it with a younger newly ex jw in mind.. ten years ago i went to my presiding overseer and told him my concerns about wt owning 'rand cam' military stocks, about unfulfilled prophecy and human error in the governing body and the theocratic consequences of such.
Well done snare , good to here from you ,and I`m sure you have helped many and will continue to do so with this thread.
smiddy
it is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.
if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.
i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.
The trend of die-hard J.W.`s to divorce a former believing mate could be having a backlash on the religion , rather than pointing to it as the" true religion", it`s doing quite the opposite , the public are seeing it for what it truly is a wrecker of marriages .
smiddy
host:.
jehovah wants to safeguard his servants from the pain that results from making an unwise choice when seeking a marriage mate.
reminders to be patience and choose wisely, like our music video are always for our benefit.. .
Maybe J.W.parents are finally realizing that if their"" young"" child gets baptized and then do what all teenage children do , make mistakes, then they could be D.F. and shunned by all in the congregation ,and bring reproachment on the parent.
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"Well it makes us wonder sometimes , is our teaching program really effective"
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CLASSIC statement by the org. showing up their own failed teaching methods .
I know he is trying to put the blame on the parents , however the parents are using the teaching methods of the organization , so the organizations teaching program is the one that is ineffective.
smiddy
hi, although i signed up two years ago, and filled out the "interview with an apostate" as hillfy54321, i have since only read various posts.
then purchased a new computer and lost my password, thus no new posts.
i have since reapplied, and now go under the handle of hillfy 333.. a little about myself.
Welcome hillky333 I`m glad you have made it here and hope your wife soon joins you , it sounds like she is more than halfway there.
smiddy
i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.
i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.
my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.
Welcome TTBE your among friends here
Take care mate
smiddy
just thought ld throw it out there for discussion.lf we evolved from nothing doesnt it stand to reason that other life forms also evolved from nothing?l mean lets face it time is infinite.
so given enough time its possible for anything to happen isnt it?
atomant / the liberator ,
If abiogenisis And evolution are true , then shouldn`t it be common or at least happening in other parts of the universe ?
Fair comment.... But who`s to say it hasn`t ? It is almost incomprehensible to take in the size of the universe , let alone to know what is taking place here or their .
Our knowledge of the universe is like a drop of water in a bucket of water with our technology today , sure we have made inroads , and the more we learn the more questions are asked.
And in the future we will advance in knowledge and techniques to find out more about the universe we live in.
It`s just out of our reach at the moment .
smiddy
