The title of your post is disconnected to your actual post.
You ask a question with it and then give a speech which doesn't even address the question you asked with it.
Farkel
several footnotes in the nwt correctly define apostasy as "unfaithfulness".. that is spiritual unfaithfulness/adultery/fornication/prostitution/harlotry.. in scripture the jews were called (spiritual) prostitutes (37 times in ezekiel chapters 16 and 23).. they claimed a relationship with the god of abraham.. yet they lusted after other gods.. and they had frequent wanton spiritual intercourse with these gods.. to cover-up their own lewd apostasy the watctower lyingly redefines the word to mean a dissenter (against the watchtower).. anyone who dissents is labelled an apostate.. ray franz discovered their apostasy.. he dissented.. he exposed their spiritual harlotry in detail (isocf and coc).. they lyingly labelled him an apostate.. and many if not most exjws say this is all fine.. even worse, many exjws proudly wear the label.. to show their proud support of watchtower lies and cover-ups.. how sad....
The title of your post is disconnected to your actual post.
You ask a question with it and then give a speech which doesn't even address the question you asked with it.
Farkel
and died at home in panama city beach, florida.
steve imhof, a bethelite in the 1970s and former very active elder who became a very vocal wt critic starting in 2002, was 65 years old when he died.
he was father to three children and two grandchildren.
Steve and Joy were friends of mine. He told me I was a major force in convincing him to leave the WT religion. We spent up to four hours on the phone dozens of times in the past.
He was a very smart man and loved his motorcycles.
Farkel
jw literature is racist as hell.
jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.
....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .
: ....and then there is the lack of black angels....
Perhaps that is because angels are not humans and any depiction of them is only a puny human made-up-shit idea of what they are.
Too many black people simply need to grow up and quit thinking they are more important than they think they are. They are black. So what. They are free. 500,000 Americans died to made them free. Four Constitutional Amendments were passed to atone for their plight over 170 years ago. No black person today has lived in slavery.
I'm sick of the whining. Get a job if you are one of the crybaby whiners.
One of my best friends is black. I hardly notice that. It doesn't matter to me. Why should it matter to whiners?
Farkel
the organization:.
engages in revisionist history [1914 christ's presense foretold].
judge rutherford was a false prophet and a crook [1925, beth-serim].
man oh man,
You wrote:
:Man up??????
:This doesn't always mean tucking your tail and running from your problems.
It NEVER means tucking your tail and running from your problems. It means facing them directly and honestly and saying, "I've had enough and I'm not going to take it any more."
You also blathered:
:Do what you have to do and don't let others guilt you into it.
"Guilt" is not a verb, moron. What are you, 14 years old in a Chicago Public School?
Farkel
if so, what is your experience?
i've seen only a few talks by gb members and would like to hear what they're like.
are they personable, aloof, humble, arrogant?
confusedandalone,
You are the one who is bat shit crazy. You wrote this about Lyman Swingle:
:yman swingle was batshit crazy. When I was at bethel one Saturday morning he came to breakfast wearing a kimono... I kid you not
:I also saw him once eat a whole pan of jello.
:bat...shit...crazy
Let ma add a little perspective about Lyman. I not only knew Lyman, but I knew his DAD! "Doc" Swingle. Doc was a real, original Russell Bible Student. I know Lyman's sister Betty, also a "real" anointed one. Her son, Steve was best man at my wedding. Their brother Leroy I did not know that well, but I knew their younger brother, Fran Swingle quite well. In fact, I used to visit them and play the piano in the basement for them on a number of occasions. I even had a date with their daughter and their son and I have caught up after 40 years and we still keep in touch.
With regards to Lyman being "bat shit crazy", your "evidence" is coming to breakfast in a kimono and eating a whole pan of jello. If that is evidence for "bat shit crazy" then I guess I should be in prison for life. By the way, how crazy is "bat shit" and what exactly does that mean, you twit?
I had dinner with Lyman in Utah long away from Bethel because he had gone home to marry his sister Betty to a man I introduced her to, Jess Thomas, a pioneer. They are both long deceased. I played the piano at their wedding ceremony.
I found Lyman to be earthy, friendly and a good guy. In or out of a Kimono and whether he liked jello by the panful or not, you clueless one.
Now let me tell you what REALLY pissed me off. When Lyman died arount 2000 or so, my mom seny me an audio cassette of his funeral. I was long, long, long out of the dubs, but since Lyman and his family were part of where I grew up, I listened to it.
I thought they were eulogizing the pope of the Catholic Church. It was disgusting. They NEVER allow a rank and a file dub to have such an eulogy, but old Lyman got one.
Double standards for those double hippocrites.
Farkel
the organization:.
engages in revisionist history [1914 christ's presense foretold].
judge rutherford was a false prophet and a crook [1925, beth-serim].
TTAT Elder,
: My exit will take much longer unfortunately.
You have ALL that power over other people in your own congregation, yet basically, you are a huge COWARD in your own life.
Own up to your own hypocrisy and get the fuck out of that stupid cult, and don't whine about about, make excuses about it, or cry about it.
You will be glad you did. Otherwise, you are just a crybaby who are letting men in Brooklyn who don't care a shit about you, run your life and form your decisions.
Man up. For once in your life. I did. Every ending creates a new beginning. Nothing worthwhile in life comes free. "Free" in WatchtowerLand is a Paradise Earth and that fancy home you always wanted, which you can only get when the family who worked for it, and paid for it is slaughtered by your loving and merciful God, so you can have it. But to get that materialistic item you must submit to your religious masters in Brooklyn who have for 130 years promised everything and delivered NOTHING.
Get out and do it forthwith! How much more damage can you take?
Farkel, Gently Prodding CLASS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ckh0lhmf4&list=plynx0om_bmgcurq9a8qz4xy6yrlznyx-l&index=6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkau04g-bmi&list=plynx0om_bmgcurq9a8qz4xy6yrlznyx-l&index=7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szllngobifm&list=plynx0om_bmgcurq9a8qz4xy6yrlznyx-l&index=8.
All of you fools have failed to consider why GOD would make this shit so difficult to understand that it takes geniuses like you to figure it out in order to save all of humanity from a GOD who makes this shit so difficult to understand.
I spit on Gods who make stuff difficult to understand. if he/she (male God or Female god, take your pick) gives a shit about his creation, why doesn't he/she make shit easy and simple to understand? Oh, wait! He did! Didn't some guy say "take my yoke. It is kindly and light?" Didn't other morons say, "take my yoke. It involves astronomical bullshit and stuff like that, and is complicated and sort of incomprehensible for most people?"
Yeah. Lots of morons said the latter.
I never liked yokes. Kindly or not.
It's all bullshit and you fools are flailing at windmills which aren't there.
Wouldn't it make more sense that a REAL Creator would use Occam's Razor instead of all that other bullshit you are trying to figure out?
Farkel
if i knew then what i know now, i might never have disassociated myself.
i realize all i can do is speculate on what could have been.
however, when i consider the number of people i might have been able to help by dropping little thought-provoking seeds, i really regret having jumped to the decision to disassociate so quickly.. ive read the accounts of several people on this forum telling of how stressful it is to be in the position that i just described above.
: If I knew then what I know now, I might never have disassociated myself. I realize all I can do is speculate on what could have been.
I seriously doubt you've been out long enough to worry about anything "wrong" you might have done.
Besides, everyone thinks that way about one thing or another, perhaps many things. I could say the same about myself:
"If I knew then what I know now, I might never have disassociated myself. I realize all I can do is speculate on what could have been."
But that is not exactly correct for me. Let me amend this part: "I might have disassociated myself years before I did."
There. That's better.
Oh, by the way, I left the Organization 40 years ago. I was a slow learner.
Farkel
a sure guarantee that this was bogus (really, any reasoning is required at all?
) was that it did the rounds applied to john denver, annie lennox and others.. basically, they relied on satan (oh yes) for their musical ability (i knew it) and any jws in the audience would be asked to leave because ... (drum roll) ... they blocked the signal to satan so couldn't perform with them present!.
anyone else remember that gem?.
:I heard that "Hotel California" was about the devil.
Worse. Much worse. It is about the WTS.
The "Hotel California" was an insane asylum.
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: Is it a verified fact that john denvers head was cut off in the crash?
What part of "my good friend's SON discovered and retrieved his head in the Bay at Monterey", didn't I make clear?
Farkel
is there an official name for the comedic device where one replaces one word with another word having a similar pronounciation but a different (usually derisive) meaning?.
for example, some skeptics deride the bible by spelling it "buy-bull".
same or simliar pronounciation but entirely different meaning.
Washtowel Babylon Trash Society
Pious-sneer
:Is there an official name for this comedic device?
:Farticle, Circus Oversneer, Troof, Faith-fooled Indiscreet Slave, Hateful Indiscreet Slave, Kingdumb Hell, Joseph Ratherfraud
Yes, there is. It is called in short, "TTATT." I thought everyone knew that!
Farkel