Howdy flipper!
My favorite is "Bible-Based(tm)".
Common understanding: "based on the Bible." (Doh!)
WTS understanding: "what we say."
Farkel
my wife and i were discussing this and thought of a few examples of words that the wt society changes meanings on in order to accomplish their own self serving agenda .
the term - generation - definition in webster's new world dictionary : " generation - a single stage or degree in the succession of natural descent ( father, son, and grandson are three generations ) .
the average period ( about thirty years ) between the birth of one generation and that of the next .
Howdy flipper!
My favorite is "Bible-Based(tm)".
Common understanding: "based on the Bible." (Doh!)
WTS understanding: "what we say."
Farkel
in my reading there seems to be 2 schools of thought and i am just wondering which one is correct.. (1)watchtower is a multi million dollar corporation that is making its money by fleecing its flock e.g k.h refurbs, giving preference to houses with an insurance cheque under the banner of emergency relief and pocketing the money from volunteer labour.
to a lesser extent (although it wouldnt generate nearly as much money as the 2 examples above), getting kick backs from international conventions,charging for car parking when they got it for free, society approved motels that are grovels in the middle of no where.
i do wonder how they can get away with this under the title of of a charitable trust, and i do at the very least think, this is cheeky.. it is cold and hartless and will roll anyone who gets in its way e.g menlo park elders.
The WTS is sincerely trying to do the will of God, but only if God is greedy and heartless.
Farkel
i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
Nathan Natas: spell "Natas" backwards and you'll get the connection.
Nathan is a very personal friend of mine and has done more to help me with some of my health and other problems than the hundreds of dubs put together whom I have known over the years. He's a quiet spoken, articulate gentleman and super intelligent. Well, maybe not "super" intelligent. Ergo, he foolishly enjoys my threads, but I won't hold that against him.
Glad to cya back, buddy!
Farkel
i caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
: Also they felt the last days had been ongoing with their beginning in 1799!
Yes, and what is even worse is that they taught that at least until 1930, some 11 years AFTER Jehovah had inspected an approve his faithful slave as pure and clean!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Farkel
the roman catholic church (rcc) religious leaders wear ridiculous clothing.. wts elders wear ridiculous cheap suits.. .
one can wear a beard and still be a priest in the rcc.. one can wear a beard in the wts, but never be an elder with one.
it's bible-based(tm).
The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) religious leaders wear ridiculous clothing.
WTS elders wear ridiculous cheap suits.
One can wear a beard and still be a priest in the RCC.
One can wear a beard in the WTS, but never be an elder with one. It's Bible-Based(tm). Jesus had a beard and he never made elder.
The RCC wants you to go to heaven when you die.
The WTS wants you to give them your house, life insurance money and all your bank accounts when you die.
When you die, the RCC gives a dignified funeral where people mourn but also celebrate your life.
The WTS gives a sales presentation when you die.
Many people in the USA were terrified when Roman Catholic Senator John Kennedy ran for President.
Everyone in the USA would laugh their asses off if Russell, Rutherford or Franz ran for President.
The RCC allows blood transfusions which saves lives, yet they have tortured countless numbers of people to death.
The WTS forbids blood transfusions which costs lives, yet they have tortured countless numbers of people into zealot insanity.
The Roman Catholic Church denounced the "Turkey Trot" dance as sexually suggestive in the first decade of the 20th Century. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The WTS denounced the "Twist" dance as sexually suggestive in the sixth decade of the 20th Century. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(Of course and in all fairness, it is true that the way turkeys walk is so obviously pornographic. I have to go home and relieve myself in that guy way every time I see one walk around. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! With regard to the "Twist", Jehovah made a big mistake when he designed our torsos to actually pivot right and left at the hips! He didn't forsee that man would come up with a fad dance that actually involved the torso PIVOTING! (But not the hips where all the "nasty" stuff resides.) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)
The RCC has a strict religious hierarchy and trying to break rank has dire consequences.
The WTS has a strict religious hierarchy and trying to break rank has dire consequences.
Decisions in all matters of doctrine and life for members are made by one or a few clueless assholes in the RCC who live in an isolated ivory tower insulated from life choices ordinary people have to make daily.
Decisions in all matters of doctrine and life for members are made by one or a few clueless assholes in the WTS who live in an isolated ivory tower insulated from life choices ordinary people have to make daily.
The Bible condemns religious leaders who forbid people to marry.
The RCC forbids its religious leaders to marry.
The WTS forbade workers at its headquarters to marry and did everything short of forbidding all of its members to marry.
Conclusion? The Bible doesn't know what it is talking about.
The RCC says its leader is the sole mouthpiece of God on earth. They say the WTS is an imposter.
The WTS says its leader(s) are the sole mouthpiece of God on earth. They say the RCC is an imposter AND demonized.
The RCC has made disastrous choices which has caused countless numbers of its members to die needlessly.
The WTS has made disastrous choices which has caused countless numbers of its members to die needlessly.
The RCC has given countless billions of dollars to charities around the world.
The WTS has collected countless billions of dollars around the world, given none to any charity, kept all of it and spent it on projects which are designed to increase its revenues even more.
The RCC has a bank of Cardinals who are in charge of giving religious and spiritual advice.
The WTS has a bank of corporate lawyers who are in charge of giving investment, avoiding doctrinal minefields and tax avoidance advice. (Think "amicus curiae" in the Jimmy Swaggart book-selling case and no more catered food at District Assemblies.)
Priests and other RCC leaders take a vow of poverty.
So do Bethel workers in the WTS. The only difference is that they actually LIVE in poverty and with no real job skills end up living their lives in poverty when they leave their service for the WTS.
The RCC was exposed for fostering and protecting child rapists, got caught doing it, publicy apologized for it and is taking steps to prevent it happening again.
The WTS was exposed for fostering and protecting child rapists, got caught doing it, never publicy or privately apologized for it and only take steps to prevent it when forced to do so by laws or the courts.
To be a good Catholic, you must confess all your sins to your religious leaders, but you are never punished for doing that.
To be a good dub, you must confess all your sins to your religious leaders and then face a shitstorm of punishment for doing that.
Much of the Catholic religion is based upon heaping guilt trips on members.
All of the WT religion is based upon heaping guilt trips on members.
The RCC has some wacky superstitions.
The WTS has demons hiding in sofas at every garage sale.
The RCC has communion where everyone partakes.
The WTS has the Memorial where no one partakes.
The RCC doesn't have any false prophecies because they don't prophecy.
The WTS does prophesy and 100% of them have proven to be false.
The RCC doesn't concern itself with the End-of- the-World-as-we-know-it.
The entire reason for existence of the WTS is to concern itself with the End-of-the-World-as-we-know-it. It could not exist without it.
The RCC does not need zillions of new books to survive.
The WTS needs zillions of new books to survive.
The RCC has an entire arm of genuine scholars. They are known as "Jesuits."
The WTS had Fred Franz. He's dead and he was always wrong. About everything. (The WTS won't even print his books anymore, and you know how much they LOVE to print books!)
In the RCC, the possibility of getting to heaven is open to everyone.
In the WTS, getting to heaven is based upon a 144,000 lottery. The possibility of getting to heaven mostly depends upon your birthdate and the birthday lottery was pretty-much filled up over seventy years ago. Good luck with that.
The foundation of the RCC religion is a dead guy named "Peter."
The foundation of the WTS religion is a dead guy named "Chuck" AND a printing corporation where members buy and sell their books.
The RCC claims its leader is infallible when speaking for God. After all, he is speaking for GOD!
The WTS claims its leaders are not infallible when speaking for God, but only when they get something dreadfully wrong. After all, they may may be speaking for GOD, but he doesn't always speak for THEM!
The RCC has banned books and banned music.
The WTS has banned books and banned music.
The RCC has supported some of the greatest artist of all time, including Michaelangelo. Their art has withstood the test of time, everyone admires it and there are countless re-prints of it all over the world.
The WTS has its own "art department." Their art has a shelf life of 30 days. No one admires it and no one makes re-prints of it. Ever.
The RCC cruelly punished Galilei Galileo for proving one of their major doctrines was total bullshit. Centuries later they finally apologized for that.
The WTS cruelly punished Carl Olaf Jonnson for proving one of their major doctrines was total bullshit. They never have and never will apologize for that. They never apologize for anything they do wrong.
The RCC has 1,000,000,000 members, most of whom don't really buy all that bullshit because it is pretty wacky.
The WTS has only 8 tenths of one percent of the RCC members, most of whom don't really buy all the WTS bullshit because it makes even the RCC look sane.
Members of the RCC worship dead saints and are proud to do it.
Members of the WTS worship live GB members, and deny they do it.
The RCC sold "indulgences" to lesson the time those payees spend in purgatory.
The WTS has Circuit Overseers who discretely accept "indulgences." It doesn't lessen the donor's TIME in purgatory, but it does mitigate their actual WTS purgatory, keeps some of them out of trouble they deserve to be in and gets them promoted to positions they don't deserve to have.
The idiot who spent most of his adult life attacking the RCC with his "Religion is a Snare
and a Racket", had two basic problems:
1) He should have been looking in the mirror when he said that and,
2) Despite his making his followers buy and sell millions of his books attacking the RCC, almost no one in the RCC has ever heard of the guy or what he said. Neither have most of the WTS members who are under 60 years age.
The RCC wants you to kiss the rings of their leaders.
The WTS wants you to kiss the asses of their leaders.
Today, a very large number of the Catholic Churches are nearly empty, but the RCC is still running its worldwide charities.
Today, a very large number of the Kingdom Halls are nearly empty. The WTS is selling them for a hefty profit and continues to run its worldwide campaign of begging for more and more money and still gives none of it to charity.
As of this date, the RCC is still in business.
As of this date, the WTS still IS a business.
Farkel
say after 1970 for reference, i cast my vote for the 1973 classic, "chinatown.".
what say ye?.
farkel.
Say after 1970 for reference, I cast my vote for the 1973 classic, "Chinatown."
What say ye?
Farkel
as most suspected, the wts filed their brief, at least it looks that way..... http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
it also notes aob in excess of word count limit.. wonder if they did that to buy more time?.
Chaserious,
You said:
: As to the 10th Amendment limiting federal judicial powers, that certainly is not a theory that has ever been endorsed by the Supreme Court. It may be a minority academic view that some agree with, but I don't think you would get very far with that argument in the federal courts.
What kind of shit are you smoking? That's not a theory, that is what the 10th Amendment SAYS! Your argument is that the 10th amendment is worthless and that the US Supreme Court has the legitimate power to do whatever they want.
Even an idiot like myself knows that the Supreme Court cannot tread in the waters of legitimate and duly exercised powers by the States. The States are sovereign in their rightful exercise of their own powers as is the Federal Government in theirs.
If the States exceed their powers and/or violate through the inclusionary rules the United States Constitution, SCOTUS can intervene, but only in that situation.
You must be so young and brainwashed that you think the Feds can do whatever they want, if they don't like what the States are doing. Often they do, but each and every time they trump lawful and legitimate activities by a State, they are trampling on the rights of every US citizen.
Farkel
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we warmly invite you to attend this year's three-day convention presented by jehovah's witnesses/ 'god's word is truth'.
:We warmly invite you to attend this year's three-day CONVENTION presented by Jehovah's Witnesses/ 'God's Word Is Truth'
If the WTS and dubs are even the least-bit genuinely "warm", then Siberia is hotter than a volcano!
"Warmly", my ass. They are doing it because their Hitler God will eradicate them if they don't do that crap.
Farkel
as most suspected, the wts filed their brief, at least it looks that way..... http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
it also notes aob in excess of word count limit.. wonder if they did that to buy more time?.
Someone above asked the question, "what does the WTS have to lose on appeal?"
The answer is: quite a lot. They don't have the guns to fight this by themselves, so they have to outsource the legal work and pay big bucks to do it.
The only way they will NOT lose is to win on appeal, but even then they lose the big bucks they have forked out and the damaging publicity will last forever, anyway.
Someone else argued that whether the Supreme Court hears the case or not is NOT subject to the 10th amendment, but rather Article III of the Constitution (the powers given by the people to the Supreme Court). I would like to point out that both the 10th amendment and article III limit the powers granted to the Supreme Court and those powers do not trump the rights of the States OR the Constitution other than in cases where the Federal Government has 18 specific and limited powers. All other powers are given to the States and people respectively. The notion of the WTS being deprived of due process is ridiculous since the Courts ARE due process and punitive damaged are, well, punitive.
If any of you have actually seen WTS lawyers defending a case in court, you would laugh so hard you would start hurling. They make the Keystone Cops look like Sherlock Holmes.
Farkel
on sunday, i voluntered to make some drinks on easter sunday afternoon/evening.. if you have any suggestions, including blender drinks, please share..
:Please Give Me Ideas For Easter Drinks Made With Alcohol
Stir up a half-dozen eggs in a bowl.
Pour hefty dose of your favorite alcohol in a large glass.
Add ice.
Toss out bowl.
Drink all from the glass.
Repeat as desired.
Farkel