In ISOCF by Ray Franz, he talks about someone being DFd for involvement with/donating to the Red Cross. You should have seen the looks we got when my wife was talking about donating to the Red Cross after the tsunami.
Posts by lrkr
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13How do Jehovah's Witnesses feel about charirty?
by Gill inhttp://pr-gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2402&itemid=9.
i believe that this article reveals how the the wt society feels about donating to any charity except for themselves..
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NEWBIE- MARKING TALK
by Tallman64 innewbie here.
i feel i will enjoy my stay.
interesting talk last nite on marking.
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lrkr
Watched the movie- The Scarlet Letter the other night. Just like marking
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Will the JW's become mainstream?
by Save My Soul init seems over the years, the organization has done 360's on several topics.
do you think they will ever go mainstream with their beliefs.
for example, college is good, blood is a conscience decision (without punishment), ect....... .
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It wouldn't take much for it to become a main stream conservative evangelist org. They already believe in being separate from the world, no college, etc.
Drop the blood and 1914 and less service (happening on its own) and you will have something like a born again conservative christianity.
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K.G.B. and the WT
by Anti-Christ ini would like to know something, i remember hearing once wen i was an active jw that wen the u.r.s.s.
still existed, kgb agents infiltrated the cong.
and became elders, any body have some info on this?
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lrkr
Yes. There are even old Russian propaganda films against the WT. They considered it to be a Western sect and were suspicious of it. (Well- they were suspicious of everyone and everything.)
But- persecution does not prove truth. They are two separate discussions.
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How Many Former Elders/MS Taught What You Wanted & Ignored The Rest?
by Seeker4 inthis was prompted by the thread on whether you enjoyed being an elder or ms. some mentioned they taught what they wanted when they were an elder.
that was personally true of myself.
there were some things i stopped teaching over the years, and would refuse to counsel the friends about.
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I remember giving a BiHis on the Song of Solomon. I just went on and on about how much the two loved each other and really expressed it- not being cold and calculating with each other. Someone came up after and said, "What a great illustration of the remnant!!" I gave them a look like "say what??!!" then I said something like- "Its even better if you just take it for what it says."
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I'm Not Minimus.
by Blueblades ini don't get the responses to my topics as he does.
yet i have made the same kind of topics in the past as he has done.
it will take me some time to show the comparisons.
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lrkr
Here's a post just for you blades. So that you can have that flame thing on your post.
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Why don't Lurkers Post?
by sweet pea inwhen i came to the realisation that my whole religious upbringing was in question and i was led to this site, i immediately wanted to get involved - i could see that there was a lot of caring, spiritual people here that had created an amazing community and i wanted to be a part of that community (to release some pent up feelings and to maybe help others in some way) but having read that many of you guys lurked for months and in some cases years before you finally posted - i'm intrigued as to why?????
was it selfishness - couldn't bring yourself to commit and be a part of the community, you were just content to observe?
was it laziness?
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Fear. Not necessarily of God, of the Service Department. I wasn't ready for all that posting might eventually involve. Still not. Don't care anymore, though, so I post.
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Was Jesus a Buddist?
by Illyrian ini started investigating this issue a few months back after seeing a documentary that intrigued me.
some of you may disagree with my findings and that is ok, but hopefully we can have a constructive discussion and hear both sides of the arguments.
i personally was deeply impressed, to say the least, by the apparent cogency and deep correlations of evidentiary materials that survived to this day, which supports this thesis.. there is so much more that can be or should be said here but i will try to keep this text as short as possible so as to keep people interested enough to read it.. buddhism appeared some 500 years before jesus arrival.
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I'm reading a book now called "The Jesus Papers" by Michael Baigent. (The same author who promoted all of the Magdalene theories in his book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" that turned into the DaVinci Code.) He goes all over the place in the book. But one of the theories he explores is similar to this Buddhist theory. However, he really goes into what influences Jesus would have come across in Egypt. Including an active Jewish temple, the essene sect, the zealot sect, and others.
What is amazing to me is that when you strip away all of the ceremony, pretense, heirarchy and organizatoinal construction, the basic beliefs and teachings of Jesus and the Budda are very similar.
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the less people know
by lrkr in"the less people know, the more stubbornly they know it.".
ain't it so!!.
its a great quote from a book called "your answers questioned.
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"The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it."
Ain't it so!!
Its a great quote from a book called "Your Answers Questioned." The book is full of gems for people (like me) who are starting to question everything they've ever been taught.
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NY times magazine today
by lrkr inlight and darkness heavenly forces and a corrupted earth are the twin engines of apocalyptic movements.
for christians awaiting rapture or shiites counting the days until the twelfth imam appears, the trials and injustices of the known world are a prelude for the paradise that we can imagine but cant yet achieve.
judging by the sheer number of predicted end dates that have come and gone without the trumpets blowing and angels rushing in, we are a people impatient to see our world redeemed through catastrophe and we are always wrong.
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Light and darkness — heavenly forces and a corrupted earth — are the twin engines of apocalyptic movements. For Christians awaiting rapture or Shiites counting the days until the Twelfth Imam appears, the trials and injustices of the known world are a prelude for the paradise that we can imagine but can’t yet achieve. Judging by the sheer number of predicted end dates that have come and gone without the trumpets blowing and angels rushing in, we are a people impatient to see our world redeemed through catastrophe — and we are always wrong. Gnostics predicted the imminent arrival of God’s kingdom as early as the first century; Christians in Europe attacked pagan territories in the north to prepare for the end of the world at the first millennium; the Shakers believed the world would end in 1792; there was a “Great Disappointment” among followers of the Baptist preacher William Miller when Jesus did not return to upstate New York on Oct. 22, 1844. The Jehovah’s Witnesses have been especially prodigious with prophetic end dates: 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994. Any religious movement with an end-time prophecy is certain to attract followers, no matter how maniacal or fringy (witness the Branch Davidians). For those who want to go online and get the latest tally of bad news, there is a nuclear Doomsday Clock and the Rapture Index. If you remember living through Y2K, that was another millenarian moment — except our computer systems were redeemed by the same code writers who corrupted them in the first place.
I was reading the NY times magazine this morning and I saw this. So true- and end time prophecy is bound to attract followers- until the time comes and no end comes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01world-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin