OK let me see if I got it:
Did I miss anything??
Wow! In most languages "teach" indicates training someone to think critically, problem solve, analyze, characterize, etc. No mention of that right???
reading aleman's intelligent and erudite posts in regard to prophecies and other things biblical got me to thinking and prompted me to ask the following question - just what is the watchtower bible and tract society's current [as of this month, february 2008] interpretation on the identity of the wicked witch king of the north?
when i was in - many moons ago in the late 1970's - the king of the north was depicted, if my memory serves me correctly, as the soviet union.
but as the expression goes, s*** happens.
I think you won't see anything in writing about this again for a long time. I bet they will try and ignore this "false prophecy" and distance themselves from it. Maybe in a couple of years there will be an article indicating that the whole thing was fulfilled when the Nazis killed a bunch of JWs and that was it for that prophecy. Similar to many of the old testament type/antitype stuff from the mind of Freddie Franz- they will ignore any big deal was ever made about this prophecy and try to minimize the collateral damage by forgetting all about it.
Besides, I doubt that any of the modern writing staff has the creativity to come up with the kind of stuff Freddie came up with.
Many will tell you that the move from Pennsylvania to New York was divinly inspired- a move that was ordained so that the Society could grow in a location where it could ship overseas and thrive in the center of modern culture. Some Bethelites have a great little speech they give about how that area in Brooklyn was like holy land. (well...before they started selling it off)
What a crock!!! It was just a slick divorce attorney's maneuver.
I always wondered why there were 2 corporations. (...well before there were 20 like now.....)
Thanks for that article Leolaia.
I just finished The Four Presidents of the Watch Tower Society by Gruss. On page 17 he says:
The author finds it more than coincidental that in the same year the divorce was finalized, Russell decided to move "Jehovah's work" to New York and to form a new corporation, later called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., into which, no doubt, went all the joint assets of Charles and Maria Russell. His moving to New York State was an effort to avoid paying his wife the court-ordered paymetns of $100/month. "When the Pensylvania courts ordered Russell to pay alimony to his wife, he filed a plea that he had nothing with which to pay, as he had transferred all his property, evaluated at $317,000 to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society."
Sounds like someone pretty adept at "theocratic strategy". Not the kind, gentle icon that many have been taught to believe he was.
Related question- It appears from some things that I have read that the WT B&T Society of New York was formed so that Russell could move assets out of the WTB&TS of Pennsylvania. From what I understand the Pennslyvania corp was partially owned by Maria- so the creation of the New York corporation was really just an attempt to hide/shield marital assets from the divorce.
Has anyone here read something similar???
since some of us are still active and have to hide our so-called apostate literature, i am curious about where some of you keep it.
i have to leave it at my workplace.
i manage, however, to have one book at home.
Under my humidor
london, england.
jehovah's necklaces17/02/2008nurses are calling for jehovah's witnesses to wear special bracelets and necklaces so they won't be given "sinful" blood transfusions by mistake.. most of britain's 125,000 witnesses carry pocketsized cards declaring their religious beliefs.
but nurses say that in an emergency there may be no time to check a patient's pockets.. the royal college of nursing have urged the watchtower society, which represents the witnesses, to ask members to wear the bracelets or necklaces.. .
I don't think there's enough room on most peoples forehead to tatoo all of the exceptions, clarifications, etc.
No doubt the engraved necklace thing is quietly approved by Bethel because some brother has a business selling these things.
i'm not sure if this has been posted yet, so i took the liberty of scanning a copy.
here is the figures for the 2007 service year report.
interesting that over 9,000 partook at the memorial last year when the numbers should be going down.
Look at Britain's report (sorry Wales, and Scotland- in WT land its Britain, not UK)
122,412 last years average
3383 baptized
(If you add the above two- you get 125,795)
This years average- 125,808- 13 people MORE than the addition of baptized to last years average. No one left, no one got DFd, no one went inactive, and 13 more people started going out in service or were reactivated??!!!
Like I said before- somehow, at HQ they jiggered the numbers.
i'm not sure if this has been posted yet, so i took the liberty of scanning a copy.
here is the figures for the 2007 service year report.
interesting that over 9,000 partook at the memorial last year when the numbers should be going down.
Somethings suspicious. I think they changed the calculation for "average publishers" somehow. France had a 2% growth??!!!?? No way. No way to tell until next year. If the growth is back to .5-1% and 0% for industrialized nations we'll know they jiggered the numbers for this year.
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
The last I heard (about 9 months old from a CO visit elders meeting) the R&F get a good "counseling" for doing such a thing. An elder, MS, or pioneer gets their "priviledges" reviewed. (Code for "we remove them")
