Posts by ProdigalSon

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On the Nature of Our Savior & Idolatry

by Perry in

ot - isaiah 43:11 ~ i, even i, am the lord [jehovah]; and beside me there is no saviour.. nt - 2 peter 3:18 ~ but grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our lord and saviour jesus christ.

to him be glory ... for ever.

nt - 1 john 4:14 ~ and we have seen and do testify that the father sent the son to be the saviour of the world.. ot - isaiah 45:21 ~ there is no god else beside me; a just god and a saviour; there is none beside me.. nt - 1 timothy 2:3 -5 ~ for this is good and acceptable in the sight of god our saviour ... the man christ jesus.. nt - 2 timothy 1:10 ~ but is now made manifest by the appearing of our saviour jesus christ.

ProdigalSon

Hi designs... Yes I agree with you. Eden is the eventual destiny of everyone who has even a trace of God's spirit, but our egos can't go to such a place, otherwise there will just be more of the same crap as we have in this world. They would have to be dissolved in the symbolic Lake of Fire. We really don't need them anyway! Jesus' message was of course twisted by the Roman Church and they made everything literal and made him the ONLY "Son of God" or "Anointed One". It's pretty obvious what purpose that has served for them.....

"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors."

~Pope Leo X, at a Good Friday banquet at the Vatican in 1514.

I actually believe the Gnostic interpretation of "Jehovah", that it comes from Iod-Havah, the male and female aspects of God, that reside within us....in other words, the Christ Spirit.

It's the MESSAGE, not the MAN!

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On the Nature of Our Savior & Idolatry

by Perry in

ot - isaiah 43:11 ~ i, even i, am the lord [jehovah]; and beside me there is no saviour.. nt - 2 peter 3:18 ~ but grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our lord and saviour jesus christ.

to him be glory ... for ever.

nt - 1 john 4:14 ~ and we have seen and do testify that the father sent the son to be the saviour of the world.. ot - isaiah 45:21 ~ there is no god else beside me; a just god and a saviour; there is none beside me.. nt - 1 timothy 2:3 -5 ~ for this is good and acceptable in the sight of god our saviour ... the man christ jesus.. nt - 2 timothy 1:10 ~ but is now made manifest by the appearing of our saviour jesus christ.

ProdigalSon

Actually, any belief that Christ is outside a person is idolatry, a Golden Calf.

As far as Jehovah and Jesus are concerned, I don't see how anyone can reconcile the two personalities and say they are the same. Jesus hung out with the sinners and tax collectors and treated them with love. Jehovah would have either annihilated or rewarded them depending on whether or not they helped Israel gain more real estate.

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Latest research findings: The more believers doubt their own beliefs, the more they proselytize in favor of them .

by AndersonsInfo in

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on december 10, 2010, appearing in our local newspaper was an article titled, social science palooza, written by columnist, david brooks.

"every day, hundreds of thousands of scholars study human behavior.

every day, a few of their studies are bundled and distributed via e-mail by kevin lewis, who covers the social sciences for the boston globe and national affairs.

ProdigalSon

How true. When someone thinks they know the truth, it's a guarantee they'll never find it. JW's think they're the only ones spiritually "awake", but in reality their beliefs will keep them from ever realizing that they're fast asleep. The 29th chapter of Isaiah really brings this point home.

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Nostradamus prediction of 2012 and the timing of the society leaving New York City

by dysfunction in

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i have been doing research on nostradamus prediction and some of his predictions talks about 2012 and planet x and possible flooding of new york city and ect.. which goes along with rev about the water turning bitter, and great famine because of the polar shifts.

does anyone know anything about this and the possible connection as is why they might be selling their real estate and trying to leave new york city?

any thoughts ... feel free to venture off topic..or outside the box..

ProdigalSon

Like any other psychic, seer, or prophet, Nostradamus was looking at the Akashic Record, which contains the history of the cosmos and all possible futures. He saw some of the worst possible scenarios, similar to what's recorded in the Book of Revelation, but thankfully, no prophecy can be set in stone because of our collective free will. Like the cataclysmic scenes in the book of Revelation, many of his prophecies have already failed, and they cannot be revived. We have moved PAST the end of the Hindu Kali Yuga, which was somewhere in the 1988 to 1992 time frame. In August of 1987, approximately 144,000 Lightworkers gathered in prayer around the earth's chakras and asked for Armageddon to be canceled. The Event is known as "Harmonic Convergence".

We have had large scale destruction of vast civilizations in the past.... we have remains of Atlantis under the ocean.... Lemuria in the Pacific was also deluged but much more gradually and tens of thousands of years earlier... it's not happening this time. We have chosen to move past destroying ourselves and on to a Golden Age of Christ Consciousness.

It won't be long now, that world events, most notably UFO Disclosure, will put the fear-mongering Doomsday Cults like the Watchtower out of business for good.

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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?

by flipper in

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hello gang!

didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?

this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!

ProdigalSon

Well, of course Dark Side of the Moon, Physical Graffiti, Abbey Road, Sgt. Peppers, The White Album, Quadrophenia, Tommy, Turn of A Friendly Card, Led Zeppelin 4, etc. are on my list, but I gotta shed some light on the more obscure stuff that's equally as great, in my opinion....

There's no way to put these in order, so I'll just list 'em....

The Alan Parsons Project- Pyramid

The Alan Parsons Project- Eye In the Sky

Renaissance- In the Beginning: Prologue/Ashes Are Burning

Renaissance- Tales of Scheherazade and Other Stories

Collective Soul- 7even Year Itch

Porcupine Tree- Fear of a Blank Planet

Porcupine Tree- Lightbulb Sun

Porcupine Tree- In Absentia

Robin Trower- Bridge of Sighs

Joe Walsh- There Goes the Neighborhood

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Thought I'd share one of my typical e-mails I send out.

by moomanchu in

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because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.

... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

if you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career.

ProdigalSon

And they have the nerve to say that they never actually predicted Armageddon for 1975.... and there it is plain as day. What a bunch of lying buffoons...

Hope everyone had a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Peace,

Jimmy C.

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If Genesis isn't taken literally, who's sin did Jesus die for?

by unshackled in

this is an interesting blog post by the author cj werleman - write of the books god hates you, hate him back and jesus lied - he was only human.

he writes with a good dose of humor which usually helps get his point across.. the blog post dissects the latest gallup poll results regarding 40% of americans believe in biblical creationism.

but the point i found interesting in it was that if you don't believe the genesis account is literal....then jesus atoned for the sin of a fictitious character, adam.. here is a quote from the blog...but please give the whole thing a read, makes more sense that way:.

ProdigalSon

There was a time when I thought everything that went wrong with Christianity was Paul's fault, but now I have to wonder how much of the crap did he really write, and how much was added later and attributed to him. For instance, the WT is one of the last few die-hard orgs that teach Paul wrote Hebrews. Well if he did he must have been doing some serious mind-altering drugs at the time because he was definitely not himself. I say this because in several places, Paul exhibits a gnosis not seen among the other apostles. He clearly refers to the shole story of Sarah and Hagar and the two Jerusalems as an allegory, and yet Christians just ignore this. He's not saying its a literal story that STANDS as an allegory for something else... he's saying its an allegory! Another example is where he says in the letter to the Collossians, 1:8 I think, that this gospel of Christ had already been preached everywhere under the heavens, long before he completed his tour in Europe.

So, just who wrote the crap like we find in Romans 13? Was that put in there by a Roman Church interested in submission to the state? How much of this whole conflict between Paul and the other apostles really happened?

So, not to sidetrack the thread, Paul's writings are in the forefront of the whole original sin controversy. I read an excellent book that's free online if you google it, "Are Men Born Sinners" that completely refutes that Paul's writings are proof of original sin.

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Do the Dead Sea Scrolls...

by tenyearsafter in

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Rather than supporting the Bible, I would say that because the Dead Sea Scrolls covered the entire first century and never even once mention Jesus OR his disciples, they're just a BIT damaging!

I mean, Qumran was something like 13 miles from Jerusalem, and somehow they missed the earthquake and the sky turning black when Jesus died! If I was an Orthodox Christian I wouldn't even MENTION the Dead Sea Scrolls and just pray that they go back into whatever cave they came out of....

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If Genesis isn't taken literally, who's sin did Jesus die for?

by unshackled in

this is an interesting blog post by the author cj werleman - write of the books god hates you, hate him back and jesus lied - he was only human.

he writes with a good dose of humor which usually helps get his point across.. the blog post dissects the latest gallup poll results regarding 40% of americans believe in biblical creationism.

but the point i found interesting in it was that if you don't believe the genesis account is literal....then jesus atoned for the sin of a fictitious character, adam.. here is a quote from the blog...but please give the whole thing a read, makes more sense that way:.

ProdigalSon

Geez, I forgot to include that last part too.... thanks! So, wasn't Jesus saying that Jehovah was into destroying men's lives instead of saving them? The KEY is, the disciples said "as Elias did", and we know who HIS god was.......

Also, I forgot to point out before that the NWT tranlates "sent an evil spirit" as "let develop a bad spirit".... LOL!! That's like saying, "God loved the world so much that he LET DEVELOP his only-begotten son...."

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If Genesis isn't taken literally, who's sin did Jesus die for?

by unshackled in

this is an interesting blog post by the author cj werleman - write of the books god hates you, hate him back and jesus lied - he was only human.

he writes with a good dose of humor which usually helps get his point across.. the blog post dissects the latest gallup poll results regarding 40% of americans believe in biblical creationism.

but the point i found interesting in it was that if you don't believe the genesis account is literal....then jesus atoned for the sin of a fictitious character, adam.. here is a quote from the blog...but please give the whole thing a read, makes more sense that way:.

ProdigalSon

tec, thanks for posting the rest of the scripture, but it still doesn't mean that Jesus was talking about Jehovah. Here's further evidence that he WASN'T....

Luke 9: 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Hmmm.... Elias's God has a different manner of spirit than Jesus' said his disciples should have.... I wonder if he could have meant this.....

Judges 9: 23 Then God sent an evil spirit between A·bim´e·lech and the landowners of She´chem, and the landowners of She´chem proceeded to deal treacherously with A·bim´e·lech....

1 Samuel 16: 14 And the very spirit of Jehovah departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from Jehovah terrorized him.

LOL... the NWT translates this word "evil" as "bad", when it is pure EVIL!!!! LOL!! What are they trying to hide?