If Genesis isn't taken literally, who's sin did Jesus die for?

by unshackled 106 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • unshackled
    unshackled

    This is an interesting blog post by the author CJ Werleman - write of the books God Hates You, Hate Him Back and Jesus Lied - He Was Only Human. He writes with a good dose of humor which usually helps get his point across.

    The blog post dissects the latest Gallup poll results regarding 40% of Americans believe in biblical creationism. But the point I found interesting in it was that if you don't believe the Genesis account is literal....then Jesus atoned for the sin of a fictitious character, Adam.

    Here is a quote from the blog...but please give the whole thing a read, makes more sense that way:

    "Well, Jesus gave himself to atone for the original sin, Adam’s sin. It’s there in the Bible. In fact, it’s unambiguously declared in Romans 5:12-21.To paraphrase those 9 verses: Adam’s sin brought death to mankind, and his sin was passed on ancestrally to all generations that followed, ending the possibility of eternal life for all. But then our cape crusader Jesus arrives on the scene, and because of his sacrifice or atonement for Adam’s sin, believers are rewarded eternal life in the hereafter. Amen.

    In summary, it is theologically irreconcilable to disbelieve in the creation story of Adam, while retaining your belief in Christianity. To do so is to believe Jesus sacrificed himself to atone for a sin made by a fictitious person, somewhat akin of me jumping off a cliff so as to redeem Maverick’s illegal fly-by of the tower in Top Gun. It doesn’t fly. (I’m so sorry)"

    It seems less and less believers take Genesis literally, particularly the Intelligent Design crowd. So how does one take the Genesis account as allegory, but also truly believe Jesus died to atone for Adam's sins? It doesn't make sense.

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Hi unshackled

    well...this should get interesting. Personally, I agree that it doesn't make sense and I think it's a great point.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Mine

  • Ding
    Ding

    The NT treats Adam as a real person, not a fictitious character, as shown by the genealogy of Jesus in Luke 3.

    Paul treats Adam as real in Romans 5:14 and 1 Cor. 15:22, 45; and 1 Tim. 2:13ff the serpent's tempting of Eve as real in 2 Corinthians 11:3.

    Jude 14 treats the Genesis genealogy as real.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Ding,

    You are starting down the path of logic. The knuckle draggers will be here shortly to offer appropriate correction.

  • moshe
    moshe

    What would a Jewish Rabbi say about Adam? After all, the Torah is a Jewish book.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    Yes, comprehensive genealogies in Genesis and Luke. As an old theology professor once told us, "God does not leave footprints in the sand to say that no one walked here."

  • unshackled
    unshackled

    Yes Ding. it's understood many do interpret the bible literally, so the point being made wouldn't apply to them. "Is the bible to be taken literally?" is not the question of this thread.

    Perhaps I should have titled the thread as the blog post title "Why Evolution and Christianity are Irreconcilable". Many Christians do not take Genesis literally. The Intelligent Design argument is being thrown about to try to marry up the bible with modern science. So the specific point is you can't accept evolution and also be a Christian. But by extension, you can't take not Genesis literally and also be a Christian.

  • bohm
    bohm

    Its safe to say that any rationalization offered to answer the question will be more in line with evidence than a litteral reading of genesis.

    For example, the good old: " I believe that Jesus died for my sins, but im not so sure about the details" would do.

  • unshackled
    unshackled

    The question is a good one for those few scientists (or anyone) who say "I'm a christian and I accept evolution...it was God's way of creation."

    How would they answer - then who's sins did Jesus atone for? The Adam's sin/Jesus atonement storyline is the backbone of Christianity.

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