I googled "Chairman of the Elders" and got the Trinity Church and the Cactus Christian Fellowship in the first 10 hits. Could be one of those, or any one of the other 40,000 Christian sects.
Whoever they are, itsacult!
i saw this on reddit this morning.
not sure who the religious group is but if you change just a couple of words (church to congregation) it reads like a jw letter - the kind you get when they are wanting to get you into a jc or disfellowship you absentia.
it's weird how similar these high-control/judgment groups really are.
I googled "Chairman of the Elders" and got the Trinity Church and the Cactus Christian Fellowship in the first 10 hits. Could be one of those, or any one of the other 40,000 Christian sects.
Whoever they are, itsacult!
the thread about the cross got me to thinking about this - i think i read somewhere that the earliest known christian relic was a mosaic display of the fish symbol - which was taken as a sign of christianity.. has the watchtower ever explained why they avoid the use of this symbol?.
have they ever explained why it is ok for them to use the watchtower as a symbol but not this?.
And yet Jesus picked all these fishermen to be apostles.... the symbology is totally lost on JW's because of their demonization of the Zodiac. The ancient Jews fully believed in the Zodiac as the Mosaic in the floor of the Temple indicated. The OT prohibitions against consulting the stars for information came from the black magician Ezra.....Genesis 1:14 clearly says the stars were put in the sky to serve as SIGNS.
my perception after observing this site for a short time is that posters here are much better informed and articulate than the witnesses i encountered.
growing up there were contradictory messages.
in fact, my grades were a witness than jws were better than my school peers.
They fear education because education might lead to independent thinking. There is usually some philosophy thrown into the curriculum which of course is not from the Bible and therefore from Satan the Devil. They constantly quote Proverbs like "do not lean upon your own understanding" to let you know that your own mind is a trap and any kind of thinking allows the Devil to enter. (I'm SURE that what the scripture REALLY means is not to listen to your false egos, but the Divine Voice within, because Jerkovah the Almighty has certainly not been offering any type of discernable support or answers for at least the last couple of thousand years.) Unless of course, you have a direct pipeline to the god who gleefully creates evil as they do.
Basically, they want zombified automatons to make $$$$ for their printing company.
This is the way of mind-control programming.
well, aren't they?
my jw father is arguing with me about holidays and birthdays so i asked him what baby showers were and how they differed from birthdays?
if mother's day and father's day are wrong, how is a baby's day (shower) not idolatry too?.
Yeah, Jehovah happily allows daily atrocities on this planet, but throw your kid a birthday party? Eternal destruction for the whole freakin' family, everyone else who dared to show up, and all their families too!
come 2014 even some dubs must start to ask wtf jesus has been doing for one hundred years, and there is a big potential for many to leave.. what more will the wt bull**it (writing) department come out with to keep the poor little drones feeding the hive, and maintaining the gb's rock-star life-style ?.
the over-lapping generation tripe will be getting on for five years old by then, surely "noo lite" will shine that makes the big a even closer or somesuch ?.
come on chaps, those poor saps in writing need your best ideas.
Well, Jesus did say "just as in the days of Noah", which would give them 120 years to work with, so they could maybe get away with setting 2034 as a date, which just might turn out to be the time we really do usher in a new system. It just won't be a Pharasaic one like they're expecting, because that's what we have now.
when i began questioning the religion i used the bible and their own statements to prove them wrong.
now, recently, i have began to realise that maybe the only reason i put any faith in the bible is because i was always raised to.. so my question is, after leaving the watchtower, what was it that made you decide the bible was worthy of belief?.
i am not asking about any continuing belief in god or disbelief, i am more conscerned about the first step (to me) right now of the bible itself.
Well, now that I know that Jehovah is Satan, the Bible is totally accurate and makes 100 percent sense!
from this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204837/2/if-you-could-ask-one-question-to-an-active-jw-to-get-them-to-open-their-mind-about-their-beliefs-what-would-it-be.
dontplaceliterature re: if you could ask one question to an active jw to get them to open their mind about their beliefs, what would it be?posted ~ 14 hours ago (1/18/2011) .
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Positive, negative, and ground.
It's embarassing, but after studying the Bible my whole life through JW glasses, I never did see the contradictions or the failed prophecies on my own. But one day on e-Watchman's forum several years ago, a poster who had been missing for awhile came on to explain why he had been away: because of the Bible's failed prophecies. I was like, "where?", "which one"? He then started listing them, beginning with the one that says Tyre would be destroyed and never inhabited again. Then he hit us with Damascus. Same thing. Both cities are thriving and well today. Then he mentioned the one about Egypt being desolated for 40 years. That never happened either.
The funny thing is, I had read these prophecies many times, but because of ingrained WatchtowerThink, I just figured that their destruction at Armageddon would apply and fit nicely. Well, that guy played a huge part in my waking up from JW slumber-land. It was an "aha" moment.
Funny how we learn to apply "anti-typical" fulfillments to prophecies that never even had a "typical" one!
So anyways, just one of those three failed prophecies are enough to trash the entire Bible, at least in the literal sense. It's either 100 percent "inspired" or it isn't at all. Otherwise, good luck trying to figure out which of those prophecies are reliable and which aren't. Armageddon may turn out to be just as true as the desolation of Damascus.
a full billboard ad in my area along a busy heavily travelled highway would cost about $500.
would probably get lots of attention and maybe even a news article, who knows.
$500 is cheap and easily affordable.
I really appreciate your tenacity in wanting to expose the Watchtower, but really, just how many people these days are joining this cult, outside of third world countries? I live in New York, and I don't come across anyone anymore who is unaware that the Watchtower is, at the very least, a very strange cult.
Or, if you're targeting active JW's, wouldn't they just see it as the "persecution" they've been waiting for which would reinforce their delusion?
i have noticed that people that hold no faith in the bible can easily find reasons not to believe it is god's word.
likewise, i have found that when one does hold faith in the bible they can continue to believe it against any contrary evidence.
the torah not being written by moses is not a big deal to some, neither are the two creation accounts in genises.
With the use of cross-referenced scriptures, day-for-year substitutions, time-gap theories, symbolism, Jewish-year vs. Gregorian year, false chronologies, falsified archaelogical evidence, artful contrivance, spiritual osmosis, and outright lying, you can make the Bible point to virtually ANY date to fulfill just about ANY allegedly prophesied event.
The real trick is, that if enough people believe the prophecies will take place literally, their collective consciousness can actually make them happen.... and voila, it's God's Word.