Being a Lutheran, I have no idea what that pastor was talking about. I have never heard any pastor or anyone else within the Lutheran church that I attend say you had to be Lutheran to be saved. As a matter of fact, communion is 'open' as long as you recognized Jesus as your saviour. You don't have to be Lutheran to partake. Could it have been a misunderstanding?
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If you aren't Lutheran, you won't get to heaven
by Judith injust had a conversation with a friend who is going to pre-marriage classes at her soon to be husband's lutheran church.
she (a methodist) says that she is causing quite an uproar because she keeps asking questions and the minister told her off at her last class.
she questioned his statement that a person cannot understand the bible properly unless they are lutheran.
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10 Things You'll Never Hear at a Kingdom Hall
by Scully in(originally posted by armageddon1975 on yahoogroups).
"a donation to a charity.
good idea.".
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16: "Let's just use our bibles today in the door to door work and just preach the Good News of Christ's death and resurrection."
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On decorating trees
by Yerusalyim inas liza, the kids, and i were decorating the christmas tree last night, my mind went back to our first christmas together 6 years ago.
one of the first questions liza asked was "you're not going to put up a tree, are you?
" typical jw conditioning.
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Princess,
I live in Longview just south of Castle Rock. I graduated from Castle Rock many years ago. Was living there when St. Helens blew. Was something to behold. Have a merry Christmas.Randy
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JWs CAN CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!
by Sirona inwhen a jw tells you christmas is pagan, therefore you shouldnt celebrate it, you can refer them to this article.
it is discussing wallpaper and other home decorations and what sorts are acceptable.. *** g76 12/22 14 are they idolatrous decorations?
so the christian needs to be primarily concerned about what?
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It appears even Jesus observed Hannakuh (John 10:22,23). What is interesting is there is nothing in the OT (protestant versioin) about the Fesival of Lights/Dedication. Let alone the bible saying to observe it. So Jesus was celebrating a holiday that was not even in the bible. If Jesus could celebrate Hannakuh then why can't christians today celebrate Christmas?
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Claims by Jehovah's Witnesses
by joelbear injehovahs witnesses claim to be happier than non-jehovah's witnesses.. jehovah's witnesses claim to be happier because they live in a spiritual paradise where everyone is more loving and more moral.. one of the reasons i left is very simply because i found these two claims to be false.. i disproved them by one simple action; getting to know non-jehovah's witnesses.
the more i did this, the more i found that happiness and kindness were traits that were not associated with any particular religious, social, business, ethnic or political group.
happiness and kindness instead were associated with very individual qualities: self confidence, good naturedness, humility, generosity of spirit and patience, among others.. i continue to try to apply these traits to my life and study those around me who display these traits.
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About 5-6 years ago I hung out on a new Jw channel on dal.net. It was the only Jw channel for awhile that I know of. It didn't last long because they started to fight amongst themselves because some didn't like how the channel was ran. There was alot of fighting and bickering. And these were all Jw's! I was the only non-Jw there and some even asked me what they should do. I told them for a witness of christian unity they should try to get along. They didn't listen so even today there are very few Jw's on dal.net and few of them get along. I told them if they can't get along now how were they going to get along on the 'new' earth? Assuming there really was going to be a 'new' earth populated by just Jw's it's plain they would be fighting each other and it would truly be hell (hades?) on earth.
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New NGO-Letter by German Branch
by GermanXJW instorch - a participant on the german board http://www.infolink-net.de/forum.htm wrote to the german branch.
he got the following reply.
and his local elders informed him without any reference to the letter that he is not to do talks in the tms at the moment.. the english translation is mine.
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The org says it was never a secret about their involvement with the UN and yet was there anything in the WT or any other org publication that imformed the Rank and File about it? How can something not be a secret and yet they did not tell anyone about it? It wasn't until the public exposure that they offered a lame excuse. What else is the org doing in secret? I know of few christian groups who do things out of the public eye. Why not allow observers at judical meetings if it is ok with the 'accused'? Why not allow fellow Jw's to sit in on GB meetings? For a group who claims to have the whole truth they sure seem to want to hide things.
(Luke 8:17 NRSV) For nothing is hidden that will not be disclosed, nor is anything secret that will not become known and come to light.
(Eph 5:11,12 NRSV) Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what such people do secretly.
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Apostate overseers visit
by sleepy inhello i've been sent from botchtower headquaters to see how the flock of apostate are digressing spiritualy.. as we all know it is important to be inactive in the service and meetings and i see that many of you are doing well.. it can be hard though , sometimes when we come home from work tiered it is all too easy to get washed and changed and to rush of to a meeting without stoping to eat.. but without trust in the holyspirit you can become stong and my be able to get into the habit of watching tv or maybe even going to the pub.. even if you can do a little tv watching a day instead of reading the watchtower and awake it will help.. in order to combat the desires of the spirit we must replace them with more apostate things.i notice that some of you have not been active on the internet recently.. this is not good for your progress.. on my next visit i would like to see more non attendance at meetings less studying and more engagment in materialistic pursuits.. oh and some of you have been reporting your hours, please consider the relevent material as whether this is unscriptual or not.. with warm love and apostate greetings ,.
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I'm surprised you didn't notice the apparent bible reading without the 'aids' that some have been doing here. A sure sign of Sola Scriptura if I've ever seen it. Once afflicted with this desease it's hard to recover. Once this epidemic takes hold the R&F will slow down their attendence to the Hall and maybe even terminate their association by apostacy. One can only hope anyways.
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My Job
by radar inwhy am i frequently staring into space?.
no i don't smoke pot at work.. i hear but i do not listen.
i look but i do not see.. i laugh but i am only pretending.. i play the game but i am not really taking part.. my job sucks.. please help.
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Job? What job? Been retired for about two years now. hehe.
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Another family lost (I'm feeling sick)
by Andee injust thought i would take a look over at wol.
then, i found this.. of course, all the responses were what fantastic news this was.. .
hdhslh .
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"He told me at their church the adults go to listen to the minister while the kids were put in an activity room for them to play."
I don't know what kind of church he was going to but about all I've been to or know of at least have Sunday School or some other type of bible classes. Most churches have bible readings as part of their liturgy\readings. The liturgical cycle usually goes through the bible in three years. Doesn't sound like the guy or his wife tried very hard to take advantage of what their church had to offer in the way of bible classes. Sadly, many pastors just condemn and dismiss the WTBS as a cult instead of giving biblical reasons when asked about it.
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Reference to 2 Maccabees in Hebrews 11?
by CatholicGuy inhebrews chapter 11 is well-known for its description of the "heroes of faith.
" after speaking of the most notable figures from the old testament it says:.
"women received their dead by resurrection; but other men were tortured because they would not accept release by some ransom, in order that they might attain a better resurrection.
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Jude 14,15 seems to be a direct quote from 1 Enoch. Would this suggest 1 Enoch should have been included into the canon?
Something else that protestants and Jw's should find interesting is that the first list of New Testament books as we have them today was in 367 by that great Church Father, Athanasius. I believe he also had something to do with some council at Nicea in 325. :)