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  Letter to My Mother--FINAL!--After 2yrs3mos--Incomprehensibly Long...

  by Confession in

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  2. experiences

  [2 john 9 11, nwt].

  [john 14:6, nwt] .

  [john 14:6, nwt] .

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  RollerDave

  Oh my God that was amazing!
  
  I admired the logical flow, the order and manner in which you developed your theme...
  
  You hit it all, and did it without rambling, repeating, or over doing it.
  
  That's no small feat!
  
  I'll be saving a copy of this against further need myself.
  
  I am in awe of this masterpiece, if she truly DOES read it all, it WILL plant seeds od reason within her.
  
  God bless you for creating this momentous treatise on why one would leave, and why they should NOT be shunned for doing so.
  
  RD
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  R.F. Update: I guess it's working....

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .....dropping of the face of the jw world is what i'm talking about.

  hello all, thought i'd fill anyone interested in on what's been going on with me............. well life has been great.

  my relationship with my parents is great even though it's been a year since i've severed all jw activities.

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  RollerDave

  Good Going, R.F!
  
  I am truly glad to hear that you managed it so well, it could have gone so much worse.
  
  Breathe deep that sweet smelling air of freedom, just bask in the hope for the future you have found where you had been told no hope existed at all, and move forward towards life that matters.
  
  Always do your best, always improve, always do the right thing, and you can't help but do well.
  
  God Bless,
  
  RD
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  Lovers of Hate

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any rational person knows that hatred is probably the most destructive human emotion of all.

  billions of people have died and suffered as a result of it.

  why, then would a supposedly divine, loving and perfect god set the worst kind of example for weak humans by practicing hatred himself and wanting humans to follow his creepy example?.

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  RollerDave

  Excellent points, Farkel.
  
  It can be hard to hate the deeds, but not the person, but it's the right thing to do.
  
  When I see someone acting in such a way that I would be inclined to hate them, I just remind myself that Jesus died as much for them as for me, and I know I haven't always been exemplary.
  
  Hell, in a lot of ways I'm anything but!
  
  Reminding myself of this helps not to hate, and helps us stat humble.
  
  From your references, it is plain to see that the leadership of the Borg allow themselves the dubious privilege of hating and inciting hate, very bad juju, that.
  
  Thank you for your post, very thought provoking.
  
  RD
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  Sorry I haven't been on the board lately but...

  by JimmyPage in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry i haven't been on the board lately but i've been reading steven hassan's "combatting cult mind control" and can't seem to put it down.

  i bought it used on amazon for four bucks plus four bucks postage.

  probably the most therapeutic eight bucks i've ever spent.

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  RollerDave

  You go ahead and read, JWD will be here.
  
  RD
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  Brilliant book on Brainwashing

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  i recently finished the book brainwashing - the science of thought control by kathleen taylor (oxford university press inc., new york, 2004).

  this presents an excellent summary of current research into the biology and psychology of the brain and identifies how organizations use this for the purposes of control.

  it discusses well known research such as by lifton and festinger, but also goes into a lot of scientific research into the biology of the brain.

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  RollerDave

  That is fascinating and immensely useful information!
  
  Thank you!
  
  I'll be looking into this book.
  
  RD
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  Is there any good?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife says that, while she can see the negative stuff, the good outweighs the bad.

  anyone else feel like this?

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  RollerDave

  For it to be really 'good' it would have to benefit you even if you left, and I know of no 'good' in the WTS that is of any use outside the WTS that can't be gotten much easier outside the WTS.
  
  If you are determined to stay 'in' you can find some things you may think are good, but it comes at the cost of your freedom, conscience, relationship with God, dignity, honesty, and often your family.
  
  Being 'in' I learned a lot of things.
  
  How to be an obnoxious public speaker, ignoring bad academic references and objections, how to defend lies using the scriptures, how to stop my own thought process before it goes far enough to cause dissonance, that the leadership of my group was synonymous with God himself, how to 'study' by regurgitating what is is the paragraph, how to treat others like solid-waste and justify it fron a pseudo-bible... Oh, and I learned a semblance of moral behavior.
  
  Since I have come out, NONE of this has been of any service to me whatsoever!
  
  Maybe this is purely anecdotal, but I think ex JW's are far more likely to be atheists than the population as a whole, so if this is an accurate statement, it can be said they are turning people away from God.
  
  I know that I certainly had never been properly introduced to God during my time in the Spiritual Charnal House and could easily have missed out if I had not sought Him.
  
  The much vaunted 'learning' I received within the wanktower was in relation to THEIR doctrine using THEIR interpretation of THEIR 'bible' and was a total wash. I have had to start over at a disadvantage as I have had to unlearn a bunch of garbage before I can even start fresh!
  
  The 'moral behavior' could have been learned better from the Bible itself without all the weasely 'outs' the WTS permits, like ignoring child abuse because there is only one witness, lying with sanction, treating others like filth because THEY say so...
  
  I can understand that she wants to believe this, and she sounds like a very sincere person, but it is just her way of stopping her thought process before reaching a point of dissonance.
  
  They are self-policing.
  
  RD
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  The copper serpent....drives me nuts!

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  graven images are so thoroughly criticized in the bible....totally forbidden.

  yet any idols made where powerless...just a piece of wood you can also cook on.

  yet god sent out zillions of vipers (thanks dude) to bite everybody....and actually has a scary viper impage made an put on a pole....with some serious power attached.

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  RollerDave

  Hmm, St Paddy was an Irishman, has anyone thought about whether those 'snakes' he chased off were pink and purple polka dotted?
  
  And what I want to know is why didn't he get credit for chasing off all the pink elephants too?
  
  RD
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  The Hope For Our Dying Home-Earth...An Inconvenient Truth

  by justhuman in

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  2. friends

  yesterday it was the day of the global inviroment.

  as i walked to the street going to work, the main square of the capitol was filled with small children and their teachers with huge paintings, songs, art work with recycled elements demanding a cleaner plannet.

  when the old generation will pass those little ones that will take in charge with all the inviromental education they had they will go for a better world.i'm sure about it, you could see it in their small eyes.

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  RollerDave

  GO WARLOCK!
  
  ROCK ON!
  
  And it's true what Dorktacular say about how we are paying through the nose and still having no-nothing Europeans look down theirs at us.
  
  Pull your own butts out of the fire next time.
  
  RD
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  I am a great grandpa now.

  by Undecided in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my grandson had a boy yesterday.

  he seems so happy.

  he thought he had a boy a few years ago but it turned out to be someone else's child.

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  RollerDave

  CONGRATS!
  
  What a wonderful thing a baby is!
  
  The whole world is shiny and new through their eyes, and lucky us, I swear some of it rubs off on us.
  
  Babies are so generous with their youth, it feels like they share it with us by making us feel young again.
  
  The service is especially valueable to the grans and great grans.
  
  Hug that baby thoroughly so that young can rub off, and go kick up your heels,
  
  RD
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  Article in Upcoming watchtower for oompa

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's right oompa, they heard you at bethel and now they have a 5 page article in the aug 1, 2008 watchtower.

  all about why jehovah should be in the new testament.. a close friend of mine called me from bethel when he got the magazine.. apparently, i made mention of this to him and how it bothered me.. .

  so there you have it oompa, your very own article.. i believe it is entitled "questions from oompa: should the name jehovah be in the new testament?".

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  RollerDave

  Man!
  
  If THAT article really shows up, they will be sticking their big, floppy clown-shoes in it for real!
  
  This could get good...
  
  RD