Posts by RollerDave

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Would you ever......

by thepackage in

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is there anything that could happen in your life that would convince you to return to the wts?????

?.

RollerDave

Wild horses could not drag me back into bondage!

basically what Mum said!

The WTS was started on a lie, perpetuated by lies, everything they believe is a lie!

The believe this, and they believe that, and think its revelation from Jehovah, but it turns out to be the result of GB political machinations, and it affects the lives of the hapless R&F.

Going back would be like that asshole in the matrix who sold out his compatriots in the real world because he wanted to go back to living a pleasant but false dream.

You say these people are your 'friends' but that remains to be seen.

If you continue resisting their call to return to the matrix, and they still have anything to do with you, then you can truly know they are your friend; but since you are already catching hell for the mere act of growing a beard (horrors!) you have good reason to wonder.

Good advice, STAY OUT!

Roller (of the 'no thank you to vomit!' sheep class)

29

Just want to show you what we saw...

by Merry Magdalene in

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the end of may my daughter and i were walking an overgrown path to the river, going to take pictures of each other in the wild roses, when we saw this--right at the edge of the path:.

"mommy, look," she said.

"oh no," i thought.

RollerDave

AWESOME!

Our herd had two little ones this year, they bed down right in our front yard, but they don't let us get close like that!

That big buck running them is pretty canny.

Awesome pic, great experience,

Roller

8

Bonus find!!

by RollerDave in

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so, last night we were working in our garage, we want the whole garage as a banquet hall for our 4th blowout instead of only half like last year.

going through boxes, i found the mother-lode of old jw books!.

my old collection of lit!.

RollerDave

oh, once I have sorted them out and don't have a zillion things to do (direct) I'll definitely have some spare lit to trade/give out.

I'll post what I got when I know.

Roller (of the 'evil slave' sheep class)

8

What the hell is WRONG with me?

by RollerDave in

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in my younger days, i wasn't the guy i am now.. destroyed as a person before i was five, childhood of brutality, teens of violence, settled down some in my twenties and tried to walk in the so-called 'truth' but they would not have it, it is safe to say i was never known as a hard worker or a go-to guy for anything but heavy-hitting or knee breaking.. reading what i've spilled into this forum, you will no doubt know i undertook a reformation of sorts when i finally hit bottom in my thirties, rebuilt from the ground up.

decided what was worth standing for, what was worth attaining to.. so, fast-forward, here we are preparing for a big 4th of july blowout, it's a holiday we do, so we go overboard.

we have an acre on the side of a bluff along the mississippi river, a screen porch looking up the hill at the deer and other wildpests.. we turn the garage into a banquet hall, and the screen porch is just off the garage, so its pretty nice.

RollerDave

Thanks guys!

One thing I held over in my reformation was the sense of humor, If you can't laugh at yourself, how will you keep from breaking when bent?

Yeah, you are right, figure one out, another takes its place... lol, I say keep em coming because the alternative is assuming room temp.

It IS very frustrating at times, but I'm down ten lbs in two weeks, even if I DO still have physical limitations, it will HAVE to be easier with less useless bulk to haul around!

Hey awake n watching, how about, 'never sweat the petty things, but always pet the sweaty things!'

tee hee me so bad.

Roller

35

New Here, just want to introduce myself....

by lies all lies in

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hi everyone, i never was baptized but studied for a very long time before i finally got my sanity back and realized that although the individual jws for the most part were good people and doing what they thought was right the org itself was total b.s.

anyway ive been lurking here off and on for a while and figured i would stop being lazy and register.

so hello, i enjoy everyones posts and hope to be around for a while!

RollerDave

YAY LYNNE!

Like me, you never got dunked into the ClownTower, so they have no hold on you!

YAY!

I am very happy for you that your spidey-sense clued you into the web they were weaving, and look forward to your contributions to the lively go-round here on JWD.

If I can ever be of service, I am but a PM away.

Roller

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Late-growing girls?

by Mysterious in

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i've apparently grown half an inch in my 20's.

i think this is bizarre.

anyone else heard of it for girls?

RollerDave

My daughter is 5'1" at nineteen, you are telling me she has hope?

kewl!

8

Bonus find!!

by RollerDave in

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so, last night we were working in our garage, we want the whole garage as a banquet hall for our 4th blowout instead of only half like last year.

going through boxes, i found the mother-lode of old jw books!.

my old collection of lit!.

RollerDave

So, last night we were working in our garage, we want the WHOLE garage as a banquet hall for our 4th blowout instead of only half like last year. Going through boxes, I found the mother-lode of old JW books!

My old collection of Lit!

Yearbooks from the 40's, 50's bound volumes when they were just binders you would put your year's worth of mags into...

The whitewashed Proclaimers and Mankind's Search for God books..

Organized book, the TMS guidebook All Scripture is Inspired....

I just boxed em all up years ago, I never thought I would value them again, but now I do for reasons the WTS would not appreciate.

tee hee, me so bad.

That was only ONE of the many great finds we made when we conquered Cardboard Mountain, lurking there in the corner, we found my daughter's Baby Pics and her first little tiny dress and toy, long lost these many years in a mislabeled corrugated prison, and a memento or two of the few good moments in my childhood. Just a few small thing to remind me that there WAS a time before it all went bad for so long.

There are MORE boxes out there, I can't wait to get into em!

I know I have The Harp of God out there still waiting to be found.

Roller (of the 'Indiana Jones' sheep class)

48

Outa here

by snarf in

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it seems you have to be of the "popular crowd" on this forum to express feelings and views.

as i am not of this crowd, i have recently recieved alot of not so friendly comments and p.m.s from people who seem to think they need to put me in my place.

it is funny how some people can express their views and opinions and everyone still loves them.

RollerDave

Snarf!

Don't go!

You know, bullies, trolls, brittle little people, they come and go.

But you are part of what makes JWD as a whole endure!

Solid posters willing to put it out there and take a risk saying what you really think.

I'm sorry you have felt put upon, who did it? Big Bro will KICK THEIR ASS! (verbally)

If you go, the trolls will have won and we ALL will have lost.

So, here's hoping!

Roller (of the 'troll slaying' sheep class)

8

What the hell is WRONG with me?

by RollerDave in

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in my younger days, i wasn't the guy i am now.. destroyed as a person before i was five, childhood of brutality, teens of violence, settled down some in my twenties and tried to walk in the so-called 'truth' but they would not have it, it is safe to say i was never known as a hard worker or a go-to guy for anything but heavy-hitting or knee breaking.. reading what i've spilled into this forum, you will no doubt know i undertook a reformation of sorts when i finally hit bottom in my thirties, rebuilt from the ground up.

decided what was worth standing for, what was worth attaining to.. so, fast-forward, here we are preparing for a big 4th of july blowout, it's a holiday we do, so we go overboard.

we have an acre on the side of a bluff along the mississippi river, a screen porch looking up the hill at the deer and other wildpests.. we turn the garage into a banquet hall, and the screen porch is just off the garage, so its pretty nice.

RollerDave

In my younger days, I wasn't the guy I am now.

destroyed as a person before I was five, childhood of brutality, teens of violence, settled down some in my twenties and tried to walk in the so-called 'truth' but they would not have it, It is safe to say I was never known as a hard worker or a go-to guy for anything but heavy-hitting or knee breaking.

Reading what I've spilled into this forum, you will no doubt know I undertook a reformation of sorts when I finally hit bottom in my thirties, rebuilt from the ground up. Decided what was worth standing for, what was worth attaining to.

So, fast-forward, here we are preparing for a big 4th of July blowout, it's a holiday we do, so we go overboard. We have an acre on the side of a bluff along the mississippi river, a screen porch looking up the hill at the deer and other WildPests.

We turn the garage into a banquet hall, and the screen porch is just off the garage, so its pretty nice. Well, except that the people who built the screen porch must have worn their anal sphincter around their neck.

The openings are framed in unpainted, untreated wood and that has moved some, and the sill of the openings is shimmed, but no trim in or out. Its a bug highway in and out of the screen porch! Why bother with screens?

So, we have been totally re-doing the damn thing. Well, and as the immense fellow in a wheelchair, I have been directing while they do, in most cases.

So, they are out belt sanding, and I can hear it, and it EATS AT ME! I just canNOT sit while others work!

I was never like that before, but now I see I have turned into a 'hard worker!'

I roll into my non-acessible kitchen and start washing dishes. My back hurting, me hands on fire, yet I'm frantically washing and drying dishes.

I knew I would pay for it later in soreness, but I hunched over that sink anyway, I couldn't NOT work!

Don't get me wrong, I like that I have improved as a person, but there was something, odd, something desperate about it that wierded me out.

My head got light, my chest got tight, and I wondered brifly if I was going to be ok, but resolved that if I were going to croak rith there, I was damn well not leaving any dirty dishes!

I could picture the funeral, my good-for-nothing family not believing that the fellow THEY knew actually worked himself to death, and I chuckled.

I get those funny pictures sometimes.

I think whats wrong with me is that I'm messed up, but maybe, just maybe, it's in a good way?

Well, back to work.

Roller (of the'I'm just saying is all' sheep class)

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My Grandpa Died Sunday

by noni1974 in

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my grandpa died sunday afternoon.i was there in the room with him.i had to watch as he struggled to take his last breaths.it was horrific to watch.this was the second time i have watched someone in my family die.he died of prostate cancer.it was a long and painful death.i'm glad he's not in pain anymore.. at the moment i'm feeling a little emotional and upset about what i saw and all of the jw bs i had to listen too.i'm also dreading the jw memorial which is next weekend.i am planning on going.i'm da ed so i don't expect anyone to come up and talk to me or express there sorrow to me.the thing is i feel like i should be comferted and people should tell me they are sorry i lost my grandfather.i lost someone who i had alot of respect for all of my life regaurdless of how close we were after i da ed.i think i'm going to be excluded at the dinner after.they are planning a reception type thing for after the service.

i'm glad i did get the chance to see him and talk to him before he got really sick.i had the chance to go to dinner with him and my parents and a couple of my aunts a few months ago.when he was leaveing he asked me pointedly for a hug.he said he was collecting them.i hugged him and said i loved him.that was the last time i saw him till i went to my aunts house where he was staying just before he went into hospice.the next time i saw him was 3 weeks ago when he entered hospice and wasn't expected to live the night out.then i saw him sunday i arrived about 20 to 30 minutes before he took his last breath.he was creamated this week and will be buried with my other family in our family plots soon.. anyway i'm just in need of some kind words of support at the moment.i though that jwd would give that to me even though i don't post here that much.it really sucks to feel alone at times like this..

RollerDave

Noni,

I am SO sorry for your loss, it is such a hard thing in ordinary circumstances, but I think it is harder when the Pharisees have filled your head with the notion that you may actually not die.

Accepting that cycle of birth and death that has operated since Eden is difficult even without that Pharisee nonsense tho, My father passed in '99 and it laid me low. Everything went to hell and I only just recently got my credit back in shape.

Stay strong, look within and you will find that all the things you learned from your grandfather are still there. There will be times when you do something and then stop and remember your grandfather doing the same, and you will know that you carry him on, in your heart. No amount of Pharisee BS or JW recruiting drives masquerading as memorial services can take THAT away from you.

At first, the loss is so great that consolation just doesn't seem possible, sorrow so great that you could swim in it, this is normal.

Then you begin to see that life goes on around you and you feel a little angry at others for daring to be happy in a world without your loved one, or maybe your pain lessens and you feel guilt.

This too, is normal, just remember that your grandfather would not want you to throw away your life.

Eventually you are able to think of your loved one and remember the fun times and actually smile, or recall some joke they told with a chuckle.

It DOES get better, I promise. Word of Honor.

Roller (of the 'I feel your pain' sheep class)