My first question to any JW who sees this would still be 'What would your response be if this were any other religion?'
brinjen
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AUSTRALIA | TRANSCRIPT of Child Abuse Inquiry into Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society - April 2013
by jwleaks injw leaks has published the 17 page official transcript of the appearance by watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses before the "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious and other organisations" conducted on 11 april 2013 in victoria, australia.. http://jwleaks.org/australia/.
quote from rachel van witsen, legal counsel for watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses, in reply to who is responsible for reporting child abuse within the religion of jehovah's witnesses... .
ms van witsen at the moment, because there is no mandatory reporting for ministers of religion in victoria, then the victim, who has very often had their dignity removed, is then put in the drivers seat.. .
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AUSTRALIA | TRANSCRIPT of Child Abuse Inquiry into Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society - April 2013
by jwleaks injw leaks has published the 17 page official transcript of the appearance by watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses before the "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious and other organisations" conducted on 11 april 2013 in victoria, australia.. http://jwleaks.org/australia/.
quote from rachel van witsen, legal counsel for watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses, in reply to who is responsible for reporting child abuse within the religion of jehovah's witnesses... .
ms van witsen at the moment, because there is no mandatory reporting for ministers of religion in victoria, then the victim, who has very often had their dignity removed, is then put in the drivers seat.. .
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brinjen
Still reading through it... saw the part about only "two cases". I'm sure a search through Victoria's newspaper, The Age from the last 40 years would reveal more than 2 cases of child abuse in the JW's... I think we can all safely say that.
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'The Matrix' and 'The Village'
by JWB in'the matrix' and 'the village'.
elsewhere someone created a thread concerning the novels '1984' and 'animal farm' as being relevant to the wts.
i would also like to add a thread to draw suggestions for movies.. .
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brinjen
First Hunger Games movie is awesome... not as good as the book (as it pretty much always the case) but still well worth the time. Saw the teasers for the second a week or so back and can't wait until November now.
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'The Matrix' and 'The Village'
by JWB in'the matrix' and 'the village'.
elsewhere someone created a thread concerning the novels '1984' and 'animal farm' as being relevant to the wts.
i would also like to add a thread to draw suggestions for movies.. .
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brinjen
Talesin... I was just about to add 'The Hunger Games' trilogy to the list (movie as well). Lots of parallels especially concerning 'The Capital'.
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How to Take Down the AAWA! (For those that have been hurt by that org)
by HintOfLime in(if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).
sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.
like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .
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brinjen
HintOfLime...
" For many people here, there isn't an "our side" vs. "their side". We've grown up to be individuals , with our own individual sides . We didn't elect Cedars as leader.. we don't need a leader period.
I do not subscribe to the idea that ExJW's can do no wrong. The AAWA is proof that ExJWs, even with good intentions - can make very bad decisions and do harm just like the WT. Put people into a mixed group, and inevitably strong voices fueled by anger speak over the softer voice of good sense."
Agree completely. Not to mention we have the freedom to call out on bad behaviour when we see it instead of blindly having to follow because of the 'they are with us' way of thinking...
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How to Take Down the AAWA! (For those that have been hurt by that org)
by HintOfLime in(if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).
sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.
like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .
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brinjen
Still thinking...
" AAWA is taking themselves down...they don't need any help with that. That's what happens when you are dishonest. People catch you out in your lies."
Bingo. They are not in a position that has bought them a hell of a lot of credibility. The apology is a good start but not enough. They are acting like they've been victimised... victim mentatility has never bought credibility especially in the long term.
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Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
by Monsieur inhas anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.
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brinjen
Welcome to JWN Johanna0426.
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new AWAA site up and new name
by Aussie Oz innot sure if anyone has linked this yet.
go to the old site (lego men and green monsters have done the work it seems) as it redirects you to aawa.co.
http://aawa.co/blog/a-new-name-and-an-apology/.
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brinjen
Well... name change, apology etc... All steps in the right direction. Good on them!
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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brinjen
Very rough... definitely needs major work. Just an idea I'm throwing out...
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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brinjen
Love where Terry is going with this.
Suggestion for a name. How about The Truth About The Truth? It's common, it's really what any apostate group is about as well as what leads apostates to become... well... apostates in the first place. It's positive, it's pro-active...
Gimme a bit of time... got an idea for a possible logo. Firing up Photoshop as I type.
