Posts by wings

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Is it bad to be an agnostic?

by blueviceroy in

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on a prior thrread someone asked about one true religion .

i think that is kind of agnostic thinking .

as i grow older and develop more perspective on life it seems that an agnostic view is really just an honest view no dogma no preconcieved ideas just observations.

wings

"Reality is what is still there when you stop believeing in it" that was the quote of the day on my msn page one day last week.

I feel so much like you. Sometimes I can feel like I am getting close to God.....most of time I feel like a looser XJW. As I move farther down this path I hope to find a more comfortable place within the mystery of it all....you know....not needing to KNOW EVERYTHING, UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, just be content with the knowledge and experience I gain along the way. And most of all, I want to appreciate creation...life....and....love.

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We've lost so much.

by shell69 in

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guys;.

i normally come on here, and am strong and very vocal in me distain for the borg and all the things it entailed.

just feeling a bit sad for myself tonight and wanted to tell my friends.. my birthday was yesterday.

wings

Shell, I'm so sorry. Aunties are so important.....so special. I grieve with you.

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Can men discuss feminism critically?

by Paralipomenon in

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i am currently studying some of the issues of the feminist movement.

one of my first observations is that men are really not welcome in the discussion.

all the reference books and topics i have looked at so far are written by women.

wings

According to Websters.....feminism: 1) the theory of the political economic, and social equality of the sexes 2) organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interest.

Women got the right to vote in 1920...not so long ago. Can men discuss that critically? Absolutely.

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Anyone here ever lived in - or visited extendedly - Thailand?

by AK - Jeff in

having been a long time dub - from the age of 5 to the age of 48 - i did not ever plan on retiring in 'this system of things'.

by the time i figured it out, it was a bit late to develop a career plan, get an education, and get the retirement savings in order.. there is still some time - and we will do what we can to assure the best retirement we can.

i am currently 52. but one of the options i am considering is a move to an economically viable location.

wings

I have only been in the airport there. I lived in Singapore for a few years about 20 years ago. Loved it! Of course it is not a third world country, I just loved the foreigness of it, the food, the differences in culture. My only input would be that I found as an American the Chineese culture to be less than embracing. Don't get me wrong. I loved them, learning about them, and getting to know them....you just might have a cultural bridge to cross that might not be easy.

The whole American expatriate thing could be a thread of it's own. I am personally looking into Mexico, mostly because I could stay closer to my kids.

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How Long Were You In Spiritual "No--Man's Land"???

by minimus in

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when you started understanding that the "truth" wasn't all that it was cracked up to be, how long did it take for you to get mentally and/or physically out??

?

wings

I'm just taking my first steps....I'll let you know later

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Do you really want to save us?

by nvrgnbk in

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this is for the christians.. let's put our swords away.. try to convince those of us that have lost our faith to accept jesus christ and all that that acceptance entails.. pretend that our lives( eternal) depend on it.. that's what you believe isn't it?.

this is an opportunity to win souls for christ.. yes.

things may get heated.

wings

I always seem to catch these threads in the end....I'm trying to learn.

Back to your sincere question. Yes, if I had that mission of the born again Christian to evangilize....I would try to save you. But unfortunately, I just another who has been pushed through the meat grinder of the WTS,and at this point I couldn't explain salvation if my granddaughter's life depended on it. I have however not lost complete faith, and I will hold on to that with all I have. From that I will share.

You are a 4th generation JW. I understand somthing about this because I married a 4th generation JW. If any family is involved.....I understand.

My tidbit....I believe that there is a simple message in the Bible. A message of Jehovah (excuse the use of the "name") wanting to have a relationship with his creation. Reconciliation. All his promises revolve around this, the message of his kingdom is about this. He loves us....really He does.

Jesus came so we wouldn't have to try to be so great and glorious all the time, like the true JW mindset. Instead we can just approach Jehovah with the simple faith that we understand that we couldn't do it, so he did it for us.

that's all I got

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Did you lead a double life as a JW? Are you leading a double life still?

by Bumble Bee in

as a jw, alot of us lead double lives.

i know i did.. in talking about our situations with my sister in law, realized that i now lead a double life as a "fader"!!!

my husband and i are "out" of the religion (my brother, sister in law and the kids too) but for the sake of family, they think we are still "in" although they know we are not active.

wings

I think that everyone in the WTS is leading a double life of some sort. Except the occasional serious groupie couple that no one wants to have over for dinner because everything offends them and they just want to sing kingdom melodies and talk about experiences from the yearbook.

I never was a big drinker until I became a witness. Witnesses have that up there with Catholics in the serious drinkers catagory. The young people always push it to the limit with music and dress, and everything else. Especially in the exempliary families. Making it especailly hard for the looser families in the congregation to try to make sense of it. All because NO ONE CAN DO IT....IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

It's a political labrynth of twists and turns. Unless you are an old man on the GB, put your 3D glasses on, you are going to need some serious manufactured help to get through the course.

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Aviator pictures and usernames- Where and why did you choose yours?

by winnie in

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just curious.

are some of them a personal photo?

ones that are not, why did you choose them?.

wings

When I was perusing this site a few weeks ago, I wanted to read some articles I couldn't access without 'registering as a member'. So, I had to pick a name...couldn't thing of anything except wanting to fly away....so.... wings. The picture is of my granddaughter, because I tried WAY TO HARD to find something....more meaningful, so I just gave up. I think she is the cutest thing on the planet, and she inspires me.

Someday soon I might change both. I'll let you know of course. Just under a rock right now, hard to be creative.

Your creativity inspires me, some of you are just too cool for school. I don't have a cool bone in my body. Truth be told.

wings

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faking/fading not an option any more...help!

by wings in

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i wish i had found this site years ago.

then i would have thousands of posts...atleast a jedi master...but nothing ever works out like i want.

newbie....i need help.

wings

I wish I had found this site years ago. Then I would have thousands of posts...atleast a jedi master...but nothing ever works out like I want.

newbie....I need help

I have been fading for years. Just didn't know it was called fading. I called it faking, and I have felt like a fake, and then of course you have to add to that, my lack of "everything necessary to be spiritually okay". I mean the bag of duties necissary to show Jehovah you love him!!! So, if you don't do those things, then you must have a BAD HEART.

After raising six kids, three step, three mine, in the 'truth'. and having none of them stick. Now I am raising my two granddaughters....last Sunday my husband asked me to go to meetng, I said no (no surprise), and then he asked the three year old if she wanted to go, she said no (no surprise), then he asked her if she wanted to live forever in a paridise on earth....

My husband has been gone for a week, fishing trip, no cells, no phone calls. During that week I made some decisions about the care of the graqndkids he didn't agree with. He told me he was glad he had Jehovah to help him deal with the pain I had caused him. Indeed, if it wasn't for Jehavah, he couldn't endure our marriage. Too bad I don't have Jehovah.....

It has been so long since we were on the same page....I feel like I have to lay it out for him, I can't make my marriage work any other way.

I think it might be too late.

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Is is easier to fade if you are the husband or the wife?

by wings in

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i hope this brings up the "arrangement of submission" question to you.

as the wife of an unbeliveing husband, you submit to everything except the things that go against your service to jehovah.

as the husband of an unbeliving wife, you are kind and considerate and love her like yourself.

wings

twinflame2,

I had 6 teenagers (blended family), none of which landed in the "truth". Now I am raising two granddaughters. Can't pull off peace much longer. Need to stand up and say "NO MORE". I'm afraid I'll get DF'd.