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  How long did it take you to prepare for talks or parts in the KM school?

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  several years ago, whenever i got a talk slip i would get really nervous but accept it and work on it almost immediately.

  of course that was way back when i still believed it all.. now they gave me a #3 talk out of the blue about a month ago and i had forgotten all about it till the meeting night.

  i really thought about not showing up at all but at the last minute, i decided to go.. so when i got there the meeting had already started and so i just stayed in the back looked at the info, found 2 scriptures and then without any notes i went up and gave the stupid talk!.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  I prefer to take my time and think about the message I really want to get across: Stop accepting everything without questioning!

  For instance, I try to add something obviously disturbing but thought by the Organization.

  “When dealing with David’s sin, we need to consider that weather it was man’s justice or Jehovah’s justice, one way or another, the baby was not going to live. Yet Jehovah, in his mercy, spared the lives of David and Bath-Sheba. This is why the scriptures tell us that Jehovah struck the baby with a sickness of which he died after 7 days. Notice he did not kill him in the whom or at birth, allowing for David to come to true repentance. The same goes with us, sometimes, discipline may be harsh; beyond our understanding, yet, we must show the same humble attitude as David and repent!”

  Most people don’t even known that story and will go : WHAT??? Why did the baby die? What did he do? So, they’ll research things and end up on sites such as this one.
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  what is the earliest age you heard someone get Baptised?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was curious what is the youngest age any jw has been baptised.

  i thought it was hypocritical for jws to say wait for marriage because its such a big deal but "why wait to get baptised".

  i think my step sister was 11 years old.

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  Kids are concrete thinkers where they don’t understand “gray zones"; they understand the world around them as good or bad. That fact alone is enough for me to believe that baptizing a pre-teen is ridiculous. For reference, see http://www.pamf.org/teen/parents/health/growth-11-14.html.
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  What Status are you? Ex JW, Inactive, elder, MS...etc

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am technically inactive.

  i was just curious if there are many people on the inside.

  are there any within bethel itself?

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  Active. Somehow, even if I don't agree with a whole lot of stuff, I still very much enjoy going to meetings and talking to people. The difference however is that I am much less concerned about what others think and somehow, it is suiting me very well up to now.
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  Glaring omission in yesterday’s Watchtower Study

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Questions From Readers (15th of May 2005)
  
  Why were David and Bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?
  
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  We must remember that if the case had been handled by human judges, the parents as well as the unborn child in the womb would have lost their lives. The loss of the son might also have helped David to realize more keenly how displeased Jehovah was with his sin with Bath-sheba. We can be confident that Jehovah dealt with the matter justly, for “perfect is his way.”—2 Samuel 22:31.
  
  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005368?q=bath-sheba&p=par
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  Today's Watchtower Study... "Jehovah Safeguards us for Salvation"

  by Honeybadger in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm sitting here highlighting answers in studying today's washtowel, and it's a real bull***t-fest.. there's so much loaded language, juvenile "reasoning", some semi-veneration of king david (yeah, he's definitely a good role model .

  maybe i've not been paying much attention, but it just seems like there is even more of this present than usual .

  i just felt like sharing that.. .

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  What do you think would be happening?

  by cattails in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you think would happen if a lot of dfed folks.

  showed up at a kh.

  socialized with each other... and.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  If you are a repentant sinner, you are expected to act as the witnesses do and thus, should not associate or talk with other disfellowshipped members.

  If you go at the meetings to be reinstated, then, it would be foolish to make all these efforts and not comply with this rule.
  On the other hand, if you attend the meetings simply to stir up some troubles, then, perhaps you should revise WHY you have motivation and most importantly, what would be the benefit of doing so.

  Personally, I’d feel like a looser to take pleasure in other’s discomfort. I’d feel no better than the group I am trying to disturb and therefore would render my visit and my time pointless.
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  Blood and Disfellowshipped Mothers

  by LuciousVBogeymanProd in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrsi8p849pq.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Though I understand that you are very sensitive about the issues you have raised, your message will not have the intended impact as it is clouded by your anger.

  My advice, for sake of effectiveness, is to lose any comments expressing feelings and simply state your arguments.

  For instance, you state that the blood issue is heretic, insane, dividing stupid and smart people and that the bible doesn't say to kill your children. Though these are many words assisted with foul language for emphasis, it still doesn't provide any argument on the matter. For this reason, I didn't bother listening to the rest of your message I did not feel comfortable with the aggressive undertone.

  That being said, I strongly command you for taking time to express yourself and would simply encourage you to take Christ’s example into consideration when sharing your views regarding your faith or other’s.

  Religion needs to be addressed in a different manner then we discuss Sunday night football.
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  Kansas City DC summary

  by stillajwexelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok just got back from the dc in kansas city.

  i know there has been a thread on the dc already but i will post "highlights" or lowlights depending on one's opinion, of the dc in kc on this thread.. 1) bethel speakers so far 1 from patterson bethel, 1 from brooklyn bethel and 1 from walkill bethel + governing body speaker anthony morris 111. friday major talk on christ on last talk by morris.

  illustarted earthquake in armenia few yaers ago.

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  So, is there any new teaching, light, understanding??
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  If you could ask an elder your questions

  by Heather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what question do you want to ask or have you asked that would stump or have stumped an elder?

  i'm in the position where my mom wants me to come back and wants me to have my questions answered (even though she has dodged most of mine) so that i will once again see its the truth and want to return.

  so i'm going to set a meeting with an elder to see if he would be willing to attempt to answer some of my questions to prove to me beyond a doubt that i'm in the wrong.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  To be honnest, I have plenty of questions. But I decided to work my way up to become an elder, and then, I will ask them all pretending that I have to answer theses questions to others.

  Here is a good advice : when asking the questions, always start with a humble and sincere comment such as :
  - I need help on a subject...
  - perhaps you have a better understanding on the following matter...
  - I needed the enlightment of an experience brother on the following ...
  
  That being said, regarding the new light we had for 1935 : If the gathering of the anoited hasn't stoped around 1935, then, do we still hold that the gathering of the great crowd started around 1935?
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  WT:1958-1959

  by Anti-Christ in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just got a hold of the wts from 1958-59 so i would like to know if any one has some interesting things i could use in them to show some of my jw "friends" and relatives that the wt contradicts itself or things that are total lies that can be easily proven?

  i also have wt and aw2005.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Anti-Christ,

  Articles in french were released about 3 months after the English edition. If I can remember well, it was this way until sometimes in the 1980s. Now, regarding when it started, and if everything was translated, I don't know.

  However, this explains the differences in the dates.

  By the way, even if you probably chose your nick name to show your oposition to the WT, it is still a name in oposition to Jesus himself.

  I wouldn't want to be you.