Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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Video on child abuse
by TTATT in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
very strong video on child abuse in the wt.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohaln1qhi90.
StephaneLaliberte

I think the video is very well made. However, it would be a good idea to make it a little more mainstream by rewording some of the items. For instance:

"... committed under the protection of so called religious beliefs"

could be

"... committed under current organizational procedures".

Concerning the things that can be done, I agree with them except for the first one. Everyonce in a while, a kid will actually lie about this stuff. So what about "Innocent until proven guilty"?.

There is one thing that the video did not address:

- Do the elders recieve as proof other type of witnesses such as pictures, recordings, medical/legal proofs or even contracdictory statements from the accused? I can't even find anything abou that topic in anything printed by the watchtower.

- In places where elders don't have to report to the police, are parents still discouraged to do so?
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Dubs & Halloween
by Nathan Natas in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
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StephaneLaliberte

Though I don’t abide to a whole lot of JW’s teachings, I must say that I am still against the idea to celebrate Halloween. That holiday is not only rooted in pagan practices but still puts forward concepts that don’t go along with being a Christian. Dressing up kids as monsters and sometimes even as little devils... I don’t see how someone can consolidate this with being a Christian. That being said, if it was just about dressing up kids for candies, I have nothing against that.
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Young children baptism
by zound in
1. jw
2. friends
to further push the young children baptisms take a look at this image:.

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StephaneLaliberte

And they take pride that they don't baptize babies. Seriously, what is the difference when you baptize kids like this. This sickens me.
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RNWT: Page 1767: About 1914
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in appendix b1, there is a timeline for the message of the bible.

on the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "about 1914", what is this?

don't you find it odd that they use the word "about"?
StephaneLaliberte

As for World War 1, everything was sent into motion with the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in June 28 1914. As a witness, I always believed that Satan himself was behind the man that shot him. But now, that timeline just doesn't make any sense!
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RNWT: Page 1767: About 1914
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in appendix b1, there is a timeline for the message of the bible.

on the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "about 1914", what is this?

don't you find it odd that they use the word "about"?
StephaneLaliberte

You're right slimboyfat! Questions from Readers May 15 2009 confirms that!

Why did I miss this? How does it make any sense in the minds of any Jehovah's Witnesses goes beyond me... This means that First World War would have occured with or without Satan thrown on earth. Then, how can they use that war as a proof for?
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RNWT: Page 1767: About 1914
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in appendix b1, there is a timeline for the message of the bible.

on the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "about 1914", what is this?

don't you find it odd that they use the word "about"?
StephaneLaliberte

slimboyfat :I think you have a very good guess, but, obviously, throwing Satan upon earth could not have occurred before the end of the gentile time, so this would rule out before 1914. As for First World War, it has always been used as the proof that Satan was hurled upon earth. Therefore, it could not have happened after 1914. So this still does not explains the "ABOUT" being used other then perhaps, the end of the gentile times could have ended before 1914.
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RNWT: Page 1767: About 1914
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in appendix b1, there is a timeline for the message of the bible.

on the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "about 1914", what is this?

don't you find it odd that they use the word "about"?
StephaneLaliberte

It doesn not mean "concerning" as this is clearly a timeline.

After 4026 B.C.E1943 B.C.E
After 1070 B.C.E
29 C.E
33 C.E
About 1914 C.E
Future
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RNWT: Page 1767: About 1914
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in appendix b1, there is a timeline for the message of the bible.

on the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "about 1914", what is this?

don't you find it odd that they use the word "about"?
StephaneLaliberte

In Appendix B1, there is a timeline for the Message of the bible. On the second page of that appendix, there is a small section entitled "About 1914", what is this? Don't you find it odd that they use the word "About"? Wouldn't anywhere between 1913-1915 qualify as About 1914? Is this the first time they do this?
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Kingdom hall constructions in developing countries
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just about everyone heard about some brother, sister or couple go in the south somewhere to help build a kingdom hall.

what i am wondering is:.

since north americans clearly make more money, wouldnt it make more sense for a brother to work in his home town and give away money to pay some trades man in the south to do the work?
StephaneLaliberte

JakeM2012: The airfare alone paid by the volunteers could have paid for hiring a worldwide contractor.

Totaly right!
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Kingdom hall constructions in developing countries
by StephaneLaliberte in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just about everyone heard about some brother, sister or couple go in the south somewhere to help build a kingdom hall.

what i am wondering is:.

since north americans clearly make more money, wouldnt it make more sense for a brother to work in his home town and give away money to pay some trades man in the south to do the work?
StephaneLaliberte

Going in another country to preach makes more sense than going to build something. Those who go out on construction projects spend most of their time working on the project, not much in discussing the bible as missionaries would.

Another though that crossed my mind is the fact that everyone knows that they went out to do this sacrifice. If they simply provided a monetary donation that would have the exact same effect, no one would know. You won’t ever have someone taken as an example in a convention where a brother would explain how he gave away 30% of his salary. On the other hand, you have plenty of people going at the front boasting about all the blessings from going on construction sites in some poor country.