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StephaneLaliberte
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This is hillarious!! Have to see... the JW Motto... YOLO!!
by ILoveTTATT inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhl-x1u0cua.
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yolo!
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Reaching Someone on the Human Level
by done4good inprior to these last few days, it has been a few years since i posted here.
i was, for the most part, able to move on quite effectively from my jw experience, (from about the age of 5 to 33), so after about 2 or 3 years, i have mostly just read here as a lurker for the past 5 years or so.
it is time to contribute again.. recently, over the last 7 months, i have been through an ordeal involving some dear jw friends of mine.
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StephaneLaliberte
Hello Done4Good,
I enjoyed reading your experience and thank you for sharing it. The reality is that when dealing with our JW friends, we cannot take any part of our relationship with them for granted. This does not mean that we should not try to keep the remnant of our damaged relationship with them. Yet, we must take into consideration the reminders that our friends are receiving on a regular basis with their church: “Your friend Done4Good is out to destroy your relationship with Jehovah. You must therefore choose between your God and your friend!” Fortunately, through the years, I have found that many JW will take this admonition lite heartedly if you are willing to respect their beliefs.
Of course, this will not address your profound urge to share your findings about the organization. Unfortunately though, doing so directly will immediately bring the automatic “cult persona” to the scene and you will lose all chances to make a difference.
Jesus made it clear: “By their fruits you will recognize them”. JW love to brag about their fruits, nothing prevents you from doing the same. For instance, have you helped your neighbor with something? Have you received selfless help yourself? You may also share some facts that do not contradict the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but raises questions such as: “I’m glad that the crime has went down in my area. I don’t even know how my dad lived with it 20 years ago.” Or, you may even express faith in things you have in common.
Just about every articles the watchtower has printed in regards to preaching to family members in silence would apply here.
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Help me Plz (teen issues)
by Demokan ini have bdd, it isn't just the meetings it's everything.
i don't want to go but i feel guilty of not going cause he said everyone is wondering where i am, but i dont want anyone to see my face... and tomorrow they said they'll call me to make sure im going but it's so tough.
also how do i cancel talks thx.. .
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StephaneLaliberte
If you are not baptized, this could be much easier then you think. Simply do research on the JW belief and explain in clear words that while you made reaserch in order to become baptized, you came to conclusions that defer to greatly from JWs and that thus, you cannot go any further.
If you are baptized, state your reasoning in a clear matter to your parents and don't give any reasons to the others other then, you "need time right now".
If your parents are super zealots, then, what's the point of not being disfellowshipped. Other then family, you shouldn't care about the others cause in the end, none of 'em will care about you.
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JW's Parked in front of House doing Returns, Not so good Feelings.
by Shanagirl inugh, i saw them this morning, 4 of them piling out of the car in front of my house and going to a few "not at homes" across the street.
it brought up a lot of uncomfortable feelings in me and especially seeing a former friend who's partially related to my husband's family thru marriage.
i saw her out the window staring at our home and it gave me the creeps.
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StephaneLaliberte
You know, nothing prevents you from going door to door on your street and tell your neighboors about how the JW view you.
If they start getting after you and put pressure in any way... get a restraining order. :)
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The Judicial Committee videos in english
by confusedandalone innot sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.
how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
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StephaneLaliberte
No. They made no reference to professional help. Instead, they will follow up with her through shepperding calls. That way, when she goes through with it and kill herself, they will wash their hands saying: We went through the proper procedures and she sinned by killing herself! Thus shifting all reponsability to her.
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The Judicial Committee videos in english
by confusedandalone innot sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.
how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
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StephaneLaliberte
So, he made up that story about a pragnant girl while the whole time, he had gay sex three times a week??
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The Judicial Committee videos in english
by confusedandalone innot sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.
how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
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StephaneLaliberte
And yes, I will record it.
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The Judicial Committee videos in english
by confusedandalone innot sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.
how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
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StephaneLaliberte
DATA DOG, I seriously doubt that the news would do anything about this. We are outraged because we understand all the double-talks in there and why they are doing things and even making certain gestures. We are incredibly expert on this topic because a great deal of us, like myself, were born into it. Some people teach piano to their kids and they become world renowned musicians. We are though JW theology since infancy and don't even realize just how knowledgeable we are on the topic.
A news representative would not understand even half of what is truly happening here.
A quick example of this: Would the news rep understand that they are teaching elders to be two at all times with crying sisters as it has lead to adultery in a number of times? Or would they understand that the elders don’t invite her because perhaps they could see her as a bad influence for their family? Or would the news rep understand that it is viewed very seriously to associate with none JW and thus, this weighted heavily in their judgment?
I feel it will be inevitable one day for me to face such a JC and when that happens, I will be more then happy to call them out for what they are: Pharisees.
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The Judicial Committee videos in english
by confusedandalone innot sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.
how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.
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StephaneLaliberte
I’ve watched the videos and though it was difficult at times, I watched them through to the end.
If I put my JW’s hat on, I see nothing wrong with these videos; they are text book examples of what has always been discussed in various ways in talks and in print.
However, if I think outside the JW’s set of frame, I am left with only a great deal of concern. Just the way that they talk doesn’t sound real. It sounds like: I am applying counsels from the Theocratic Ministerial School to modulate my voice, take pauses, make gestures, eye contact, etc, to make you feel like I care when I care even more about rules and procedures.
For instance, the woman says she is depressive. They talk about Job and give her passages to remember and send her off her way. What about just inviting her over to your house to eat with your wife and kids? Informal conversations around a table with a glass of wine tend to be much more productive and joyful. Instead, they are planning to follow up on her by sending elders on a shepherding call. Don’t they know that such visits are first and foremost stressful? There are alternatives like: Ask women in the congregation to take her out. Make small gifts; use her as an example on the stage, etc.
There are so many things wrong here that I could write on for another few pages…
And as for the JC, they’re decision was mainly based on a book of rules that was not in the bible. You cannot postpone a JC so as to let them time to fix the situation… Just why is that? Really? Why is that a rule?
And they kept stressing that this was not a court of law! Of course, this is an inquisition! It’s not about helping. How is disfellowshipping going to help him?
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PRINCE shows on the cheap
by smiddy inaccording to an article in todays paper prince plans to charge fans as little as $11 for tickets to his coming london shows.. the pop superstarsaid he wanted to keep ticket prices low and work smaller venues with his all- female band 3rd eye-girl.. "this is a new band ,people are getting something new" prince said.. hhhhhmmmmm.
smiddy.
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StephaneLaliberte
If he did half time shows at the conventions like he did for the super ball... I'd go! That man, even as crazy as he may be, has soul!