In the end, I think it works against them... One of the reasons I left is exactly that attitude. Had I not left, I would have raised my kids in this. So, in the end, they didn't loose one guy, they lost 4 people (Me, my wife and kids).
StephaneLaliberte
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News Reports are "Apostate Lies"
by truth_b_known inwith the most recent investigative news report show entitled "the witnesses" i noticed a number of posters whose family members are pimi refer to such shows as "apostate lies.
" even the governing body (possibly loesch) made such a statement (possibly on jw broadcasting).
i was thinking of how to reply to such a statement.. first, ask "who is the apostate?
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Watchtower issues take down notice!!!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/f7jloq/breaking_watchtower_issues_dmca_takedown_to/.
zing.
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StephaneLaliberte
This explains why Loyd Evens (John Cedars) has been able to use a whole lot of WT content in his videos, he takes equal (if not more) time to discuss the JW content presented.
So, it is possible to use WT content, it just needs to fall under the "fair use" provision.
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News Reports are "Apostate Lies"
by truth_b_known inwith the most recent investigative news report show entitled "the witnesses" i noticed a number of posters whose family members are pimi refer to such shows as "apostate lies.
" even the governing body (possibly loesch) made such a statement (possibly on jw broadcasting).
i was thinking of how to reply to such a statement.. first, ask "who is the apostate?
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Data-Dog: I don’t think they hate pedophiles.
By "they", I meant the Rank and Files and the majority of elders. The higher up the power chain they go, they more they get corrupt by their policies and warped justifications to protect the name of
their organizationJehovah.But to the rank and files, this is absolute non sense. This explains that when the Governing body writes "We endevor to report it to the police", they read "We report it to the police". Cause the greater majority would not understand why they don't actually report it to the police.
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News Reports are "Apostate Lies"
by truth_b_known inwith the most recent investigative news report show entitled "the witnesses" i noticed a number of posters whose family members are pimi refer to such shows as "apostate lies.
" even the governing body (possibly loesch) made such a statement (possibly on jw broadcasting).
i was thinking of how to reply to such a statement.. first, ask "who is the apostate?
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StephaneLaliberte
When I was in, pedophilia appeared to be a ridiculous accusation by apostates. You can get disfellowshipped for sex, drugs or even smoking... obviously, you will get disfellowshipped for pedophilia. However, I had never considered that most people who get disfellowshipped confessed to their sin. They'll confess to sex, drugs and smoking, but pedophiles are a different breed. Most of them will deny, even when confronted by their victims. And so, the two-witness rule, coupled with the fact that elders don't call the police make it a pedophile heaven. The end result is crazy when you think about it, cause there is no doubt that they do hate pedophiles. The problem is their unwavering adherence to their policies.
Hence, the key is to tell them that there are flaws in the policies that work against them. That no one doubt that they hate pedophiles.
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Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness
by geodude ini was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .
i have no fear of public speaking.
i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.
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- Public speaking
- Public reading
- Reading alot
- Sales (aka: Preaching)
Than, there are also other things that I have gained by leaving the JWs.
- See through manipulative organizations and self deception (religions, employers, etc)
- See through doublespeachs
- Stand up for my personal beliefs
- See through fake friends
- Understand the true value of family
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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'
by Thetruthhurts inwhat were some of yours?
the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!
these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.
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StephaneLaliberte
LongHairGal: The reason for the ‘no frontal hugs’ is because it is a way for nervy guys to feel a woman’s breasts against their body
I can attest that this is true. I had to take a brother aside to tell him to leave my wife alone or we'd both land in a judicial committee: Him for uncleanness and me for excessive violence.
He never touched her again.
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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'
by Thetruthhurts inwhat were some of yours?
the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!
these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.
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StephaneLaliberte
That CO single handily virtually eliminated the picnics.
That is crazy! Some of best memories I have as a kid were those congregation picnics where we'd play baseball. Even the watchtowers are full of pictures of "brothers and sisters" out in different parks here and there.
What the heck was wrong with that area? That is seriously messed up.
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Watchtower issues take down notice!!!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/f7jloq/breaking_watchtower_issues_dmca_takedown_to/.
zing.
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StephaneLaliberte
The WT's way of fighting dirty was one of the things that made me loose trust in them. There was a site back in the days, called watchtowerquotes.org. That site was a library of quotes, in context, of the watchtower, on various topics. Only quotes, no comments, thus, no "apostate lies". Then, they sued the guy for a 100k and he took the site down.
I was an active JWs at the time and was more troubled by the WT's actions than the quotes themselves. Copyright laws were put in place to protect author's income through their intelectual property. That is, if the content itself generates revenue, that revenue should be controled by the author. However, when it comes to religious teachings, it is obvious that WT is using it to shut people up.
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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'
by Thetruthhurts inwhat were some of yours?
the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!
these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.
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StephaneLaliberte
Some sisters organized an 80s party where everyone were supposed to dress up as in the 80s. A brother complained that is was the same as a masquerade ball, which the WT frowns upon. Result: half of the people didn't show up to the party and the majority who did were dressed normally.
That was among the stupidest things I've seen and heard.
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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'
by Thetruthhurts inwhat were some of yours?
the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!
these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.
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StephaneLaliberte
Fadeaway1962: Bridge Over Troubled Water sang by Elvis (written by Simon and Garfunkel) is one of my favorite songs of all time. I dare them!!!