Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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I was wondering how this would play out in JW land.

by wolverines in

i have a niece who is trying to get pregnant.

she was telling me her husband had to go to a room with porn in it and masturbate into a cup to get tested.

i never thought of this before but but how would a jw handle this.

StephaneLaliberte

I would imaging JWs would say that they did it without the help of porn, even if that was not the case.

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Can disfellowshipped individuals attend the Video Meetings

by StephaneLaliberte in

just a quesiton: can disfellowshipped individuals attend the video meetings.

if they can, do they have to turn off their video and sound?

can they attend with their family?

Just a quesiton: Can disfellowshipped individuals attend the Video Meetings. If they can, do they have to turn off their video and sound? Can they attend with their family? Is there any specific instructions for them?

Thanks!

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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience

by joe134cd in

just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.

i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.

but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.

StephaneLaliberte

To add to my comment, technically, this is quite impressive. Just like their litteratures being translated into soo many languages. However, technical achievements do not translate to being good. Technology is blind to morality, good vs bad. The nazis were very advanced with their rockets and industrial process and their u boats. While they were braging about all that, it didn't make them moral.

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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience

by joe134cd in

just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.

i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.

but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.

StephaneLaliberte

While there is no proof about this, it could happen. Even if the emails are filtered by employees, it could have made its way to the CEO, after all, their platform was at the center of keeping a world wide cult afloat. That in itself is impressive.

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Are You Afraid To Publicity Express Your Opinion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.

when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.

are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?

StephaneLaliberte

I find that many people are like the JWs in that they've been told to believe things and they don't question the official doctrine. For JWs, its the governing body. For many, its the media and whatever trends are on social media.

For these types of people, I usually don't go out of my way to share my thoughts and I try not to have friends like that.

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Tips on a successful stumble

by Fadeaway1962 in

hi i don't mean tie my shoe laces together,.

i realize some theocatic warfare involved (lying) getting fed up with trying to fade .. how do jw family members react?.

StephaneLaliberte

I faded and didn't lie to my family. I didn't see the point in keeping a relationship with them if they didn’t respect me. In exchange, I give them the respect I expect from them. I don’t preach to them or try to subvert their faith. On the contrary, my wife and I will help them when help is needed; for instance, with tablets and other devices.

As for everyone else, I told them I needed time and never said more. If I ever need to lie to JWs doing some type of investigation trying to break apart my family, I will happily oblige. Still, politely avoiding questions tends to be easier.

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Results of the 2018 Global Survey of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Unstuck in

it's long overdue, i know, and i apologise profusely but it's tough working full-time and trying to spend time on all the ex-jw work that i want to do...... that said - here are the 2018 survey results for anyone interested and i am already working on the 2019 results.

also, i'm tweaking the survey for the 2020 release which will be soon..... hugs to all!.

sherrie d'souza (aka unstuck!).

StephaneLaliberte

I believe the first reason of the survey was to allow active Jehovah's Witnesses to participate and give their opinion on issues where they are usually unheard. Thus, the title of the site: Giving a voice to the silent majority.

However, out of the 8+ million Jehovah's Witnesses on the plannet, only 378 chose to participate. In this sense, this survey, while I admire the sizable effort, is not a success.

Perhaps active JWs would be more responsive if:

The survey was placed on a web site for that purpose alone with no articles, blogs, or anything drawing any conclusion from the data presented.
The web site would allow to do the very same thing for other religions and topics as well. This way, JWs wouldn't feel targeted.
The survey would come back on top in google searches
The survey did not contain questions that would remotely sound apostate. It would have to sound like something the watchtower would produce if they ever did one.
The survey was not calculated per year. Rather, it would allow you to log back and change your mind if you wanted to.
The survey would display results dynamically based on certain criterias. For exemple, by region or by people who answered this or that question with a particular option.
Every questions should be optional. The first questions would be very simple and more complexe lengthy questions would be toward the end.

Other than that, the survey sounds like a big echo chamber where we get to hear the same things we hear on facebook and on forums such as this one. It doesn't give us a view on active Jehovah's Witnesses.

And I say all this with the utmost respect I have for Loyd and his friends by the way. I want to mention this as I know all the effort that went into doing this and its not pleasent to hear negative feedback such as the one I am writting here. At least, they can draw comfort in the massive success they've found on Youtube. :)

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Remember this

by James Jack in

this was my elder bag.

StephaneLaliberte

In my experience the bigger the bag he bigger the ass. You could always tell the idiots who thought a lot of them-self by the bag they carried.

Not so sure. I remember bringing my whole family stuff in there. 4 bibles, 4 kingdom songs, 4 magazines, 2 kingdom Ministry, 4 bible study book, 2 drawing books for kids, other kids stuff. My wife carried the baby babby bag. It wasn't that I was soo spiritual, I had everyone's stuff in it.

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Remember this

by James Jack in

this was my elder bag.

StephaneLaliberte

I threw the last square suit case I had two weeks ago. I told my mother in law she could give it to some "brother" in her hall if she wanted to. She told me no one uses those anymore. They are all digital.

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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme

by jonahstourguide in

spotted this article this morning.

i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".

the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".

StephaneLaliberte

I thought the JWS had a set doctrine which stated that they were to obey governmental authorities

Unless it is against the will of the ~~governing body~~ God, for God has supreme authority.