Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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INSTRUCTIONS FOR OUR CHRISTIAN LIFE AND MINISTRY MEETING

by pixel in

1. the life and ministry meeting will proceed as outlined in the life and ministry meeting workbookand according to the instructions that follow.. 3. treasures from gods word:.

the theme and an outline of two or three main points are provided in thelife and ministry meeting workbook.

this should be assigned to a qualified elder.. 6. concluding comments: 3 minutes or less.

StephaneLaliberte

Hey Pixel, Where did you get these instructions? Can they be downloaded from the JW site?

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

jw
friends

none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

StephaneLaliberte

Perry, please send us the mailing address of whoever you would have expected to tell you. I will personally send a postal card with a message like this:

"I'm a friend of Perry and I am appalled that you have not told him about his own mother's passing. You have withhold love from someone who deserved it, and by now, you can't take back the hurt you brought upon him, and by extension, everyone who loves him. I hope that, with this message, you will seriously consider what you have done and understand that it is, in fact, one of the low highlights of your life."

I realise that this will not dismiss your pain, but at least, it is something that I could do. So, if you want to pm me about it, i'll be more than happy to send that message.

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

jw
friends

none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

StephaneLaliberte

Sorry Perry, so sorry... two weeks... At this point, its likely that the funeral arrangements are already over and everything has been done... as it?

This doesn't make sense.

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Is disfellowshipping a loving arrangement?

by mana11 in

i read this post, i voted and the ones saying it is a loving arrangement is over 68%, i am mind blown - what fool can think it is a loving arrangement.

lets teach them that is it not thought of as loving...your chance to let these people know if dis-fellowshipping is a loving arrangement!..

http://www.jehovahs-witness.org/is-disfellowshipping-a-loving-arrangement/.

Yes Tim310rd! I agree with disfellowshipping, not with the shunning! You have to admit that it is logical that you cannot be part of a group if you don't follow its rule. And like in most groups, you will not keep contact with most of these members. The problem is that the WT takes this further and tells everyone, including your family, to shun you. Senseless!

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And doing God’s will.

by StephaneLaliberte in

my father is still in the truth but keeps in touch with me from time to time.

the other day, he sent me an email about how the generation could be a 120 years like it was for noah.

so, i responded saying that itd be a good thing if it turned out to be true; that he may believe it to be true, as long as he doesnt judge people who dont feel the same way.

StephaneLaliberte

You know, I try my best not to be too conventional with my Dad; if I hit him head on with the Generation teaching, he will simply shut down on me. I actually do the complete opposite and even defend some of the actions taken by the borg. The result is that when I point out an issue, he take me seriously. As long as these are small, in the end, they will add up to such a point he will be fed up.

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And doing God’s will.

by StephaneLaliberte in

my father is still in the truth but keeps in touch with me from time to time.

the other day, he sent me an email about how the generation could be a 120 years like it was for noah.

so, i responded saying that itd be a good thing if it turned out to be true; that he may believe it to be true, as long as he doesnt judge people who dont feel the same way.

StephaneLaliberte

TTWSYF, you're right. the only problem is that I see him so rarely that he doesn't see what I do with my life. What am I supposed to do when I see him? Give him a list of all the good things I'm doing? Wouldn't that feel like boasting and becoming proud about "being" good?

My point is that I can be a good father, husband, friend, and worker, etc... yet JW will dismiss all that away as being pointless. That is why I am trying to reason with him, so that he spends more time with me, his grand sons, and actually see what being a good person actually is.

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TV.JW.ORG - October 2015: Neighborly love is more than just Field Service

by Designer Stubble in

the october 2015 jw broadcast, hosted by gerrit losch is quite positive actually.a lot of focus on "field service" needs to be balanced with other good works - supporting those in need around you - either in the congregation (witnesses) or in your classroom or neighbors (non-witnesses).

visiting and encouraging the sick and elderly is mentioned.

jesus parable of the merciful samaritan is highlighted.

StephaneLaliberte

Telling people about being good neighbours is not a new teaching for them. However, they talk so little about it, in comparison to preaching and being a JW, that it sounds like: "Oh and by the way, be good to your neighbours!". Its obviously not a priority to them. Building big cathedrals, oups, I mean, bethels, is their main priority now.

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And doing God’s will.

by StephaneLaliberte in

my father is still in the truth but keeps in touch with me from time to time.

the other day, he sent me an email about how the generation could be a 120 years like it was for noah.

so, i responded saying that itd be a good thing if it turned out to be true; that he may believe it to be true, as long as he doesnt judge people who dont feel the same way.

StephaneLaliberte

Your right Smiddy, but then, they would just say that the preaching actually started in 1919 when they were selected by Jesus.

About 1919, I told my Dad that they believe they (the JWs) were chosen by Jesus, despite their teachings using the pyramid of Gizeh and their erroneous dates. These false teachings were published in books, magazines, flyers, news papers. They even used radio broadcast and the theatre! In addition, they celebrated their birthdays, Christmas, smoked and accepted blood transfusions.

If Jesus overlooked these things and judged them on their heart and other works, why can't they do the same with people who do not share their belief? Isn't this like the story told by Jesus where a man, after the king forgave his debt, goes after his co-slave and beats him up for the little money he was owed (Matt 18:23-35)?

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Change user name

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

could you change my user name from ecan6 to "stephanelaliberte"?

i have been on this forum for 8 years and i don't want to loose the history by creating another account.

StephaneLaliberte

You're awesome man! Thanks!

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And doing God’s will.

by StephaneLaliberte in

my father is still in the truth but keeps in touch with me from time to time.

the other day, he sent me an email about how the generation could be a 120 years like it was for noah.

so, i responded saying that itd be a good thing if it turned out to be true; that he may believe it to be true, as long as he doesnt judge people who dont feel the same way.

StephaneLaliberte

My father is still in the truth but keeps in touch with me from time to time. The other day, he sent me an email about how the Generation could be a 120 years like it was for Noah. So, I responded saying that it’d be a good thing if it turned out to be true; that he may believe it to be true, as long as he doesn’t judge people who don’t feel the same way. In the end, all that matters is love and good works.

He responded to my email, and, inline my comment, added “and doing God’s will”.

This boiled my blood. He obviously meant: Going door to door, regularly attend the meetings, anything related to the JW. So I sent an email outlining how Jesus talked about doing God’s will in the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus seemed more concerned about encouraging people to display love in their day to day activities rather than actively take part in their religion. On the contrary, he exposed the religious leaders for their hypocrisy.

Love and good works (baring good fruits) is “God’s will”. Preaching is to actually encourage people to do God’s will. Religion is intended to help people in doing God’s will. Thus, it is not, in itself, God’s will.

Anyways, I am oversimplifying a huge email exchange that I had with him to the point that he said he wanted to wrap up that conversation in person as he wasn’t sure he understood what I meant.

My issue here is that I need to have some respect from my father… If he wants to keep in touch simply to let me know that God is displeased with me, I don’t see the point of keeping that relationship alive. I need him to acknowledge that if one day, I stand in judgement before God, I will have the same odds as any other JWs he knows.

I felt compelled to leave the JW specifically for their lack of love and their judgmental attitude over everyone. Now, I realize that my own Dad could actually be judging me as displeasing to God simply for not being a JW – nothing else.