i see where many of you have jw family members that give you a ration of crap once in a while; i've heard many rationalizations as to why some of you refuse to speak out.
as many of you know, i wrote a series of letters and exposed my apostasy formerly; in the letters i told my family they had better beware of shunning me of treating me like a pile when they run into me, i realized that i couldn't make them accept me into their houses, but in public was a different matter.
i basically told them that in public, especially at funerals, that i would rain down a load of crap on any family member that shunned me or treated me badly in anyway.
I don't, I wrote a letter saying I wanted no part of the Borg anymore, and told them all to leave me alone. When my family has confronted me about that stuff, I've told them, "I will NEVER, EVER return to being a witness, I guarantee it. I love my freedom to do what I choose to do, and I love my fiancee too much, we don't want our (future) children, to be brought up in a mind controlling organization."
They don't speak to me, and I don't seek them out really either.
so i've been seeing this jw girl for a couple weeks now... she kind of contacted me out of the blue (i've known her since i was 4, shes two years older than i) and wanted to hook up for coffee or something.
i avoided it for about half a month.
not really avoided it, but was going to have fun with it when it came, because i thought she was just going to try to encourage me to go to meetings and whatnot.. so, first time she calls me up at like 9:30pm on a weeknight to come over to her house... so i ride my bicycle over and go inside and she and her cousin were getting drunk on alcohol and they started getting me to drink.
Mincan,
Here is my suggestion, you're a young man, she's a young woman, enjoy having sex, use each other to get really good at it, have a loose, care-free relationship, nothing too serious. Sex is a great thing.
i heard this in a car group one day.
a young single mother said she always heard that growing up.
when she left she was adamant she would never be back, and now here she was.. is this true for the most part?.
I can assure you, I'll never set foot back in one of those hell-holes, EVER AGAIN!!! I don't believe in the Gov. Body, and there trying to replace Jesus. I don't agree with the dating structure, I don't agree with the blood matters. Basically I feel you should try to be the best person you can, and if you claim to be a "Christian" then try to follow the Bible too, but "Do not go beyond what is written".
wisdom of the crowd please.. going to buy a bbq and need opinions on the best fit for our needs.. 1 - cooking for 20 people max.
2 - small yard.
3 - pre-plumbed to the yard for gas.
I assure you, that anyone coming by my place on a weekend, watching the smoke billow out of my GAS smoker, would love the results. I have ribs, turkey breasts, beans and boston butts down to a fine science. Its a thing of beauty watching that thing roll. After 14 hours of smoking / cooking with Hickory, the butts are done to perfection. I challenge anyone to not enjoy one of my Boston Butts aka "pulled pork". Now Briskets, are an art form and there own seperate thing all together.
When I talk BBQ, I refer to meats that you might eat in the south, that are condusive to slow cooking with wood, or charcoal.
For GRILLING, just go with gas. Grilling seems to be all about the convenience anyway. I love the taste of charcoal steaks and burgers, but if you have company over, or your grilling for kids, they are too impatient to wait lots of times. If its just you and the misses, then charcoal is fine, because you can be patient and wait a bit. I was annoyed this past weekend, going to someone's house for a cook out, and it took him an hour to get his Weber charcoal grill going before dropping the meat on. I would've been done already and cleaning up with gas.
For smoking I think wood only would be great, but its the ease of temperature control that I enjoy about using gas. Most of the flavor is in the rubs and the wood anyway, not the gas or charcoal.
we hade one if you served him a meal with onions he would not eat it and said to one sister"don't you know i can't eat this!
" no she did'nt.
the latest co around here if you have them for a meal you get a list what they will not eat.
Oh yes, they were ALL sickly individuals it seemed. The last one I was around looked like Beavis with salt and pepper colored hair and glasses. He and his wacko wife had tons of special diet requirements, and he was constantly telling jokes. He thought he was a real comedian, I thought he was a snake in the grass. His wife, would only eat like "twigs and berries", she ate no meat at all, except filet mignon... She couldn't have her clothes washed in any detergent, instead she had some all natural stuff. She wore no makeup, and her hair was wild. He would constantly run meetings way over time. I really didn't like them. My dad and stepmom have been the "host family" for about the last 10 years, and I would presume that they still are.
Though they never had the CO stay when I lived at home, I think they were afraid I'd say or do something wrong, or that I'd act "normal". You see, I didn't "kiss the fat ass". When the CO was around I treated him just like everyone else, I didn't get there early, or seek him out, I just treated him like any other person at the congo. I always hated watching elders, and persons that were NEVER there, "kiss the fat ass". I also always hated the statement "the Brothers in New York extend their blessings and love". Why did we need THEIR blessing???
i ran into an old friend spontaneously over the weekend.
(one of the few jws i actually considered a friend back in the day).
we were briefly catching up and she mentioned an elder in my old hall is now dfed.
Betterdaze I agree with you, where was this "great elder" this whole time, while his daughter was suffering? He finally did something, but I'll bet he starts going back to meetings too, and trying to drag the daughter along with him.
it is written in code.
you need to apply a "substitution algorithm".. once you do that, it all makes perfect sense.. there are 2 primary substitutions: .
1) whenever you read "the bible" in an article, substitute in "the watchtower".
"Certainly we'd want to follow the example of Christ" - Follow what the WT says about Christ
"Certainly" = WE SAY SO!!!!
"Loving Sheperd" = sin sniffing hounder
i know that some believe all jws are "weird".
but i'm not talking about that.. there are some real weird witnesses!
you know, the ones everyone had in their hall that everyone talked about or laughed at.. we had one 25 year old man who was pioneering and he used to go out to literally every neighborhood in the city.
Well unfortunately for me I married into a weirdo witness family. They were completely DIRTY, TRASHY, STINKY people. They lived like pigs. I remember walking into their house, and wanting to throw up. I should've known then that it would never work. Their dogs, would crap on the floor and they'd wait a few days to even pick it up, their dishes would be laying around all over, glasses of milk left laying around, their bathroom was disgusting, clothes all over the place, and of course that awful smell of animals in the house... The wife pioneered, she was a recovering drug addict, who had 3 kids by 3 different men, before she was a witness. She swore, lost her temper constantly, picked fights, and said the dumbest things you've ever heard. The husband was not the father of any of the children. He was a recovering alcoholic, and really just a big, dumb simpleton. He was constantly, hugging people, touching them, and doing whatever the wife told him to do. They would fight constantly, and they were truly embarrassing to be around. They took me in front of the elders, and decided that we had to get married, since we were messing around.
Well of course this behavior played over into my (ex) wife when we got married, and she never picked up after herself. Her parents were constantly calling, and interfering. Truthfully she never had a chance to be normal. We divorced because we didn't love each other, she was cheating, and I couldn't deal with all the idiots anymore.
Then of course there were the weirdo annointed. I knew two of them. Both were women. One barely ever came to meetings, and she divorced her husband, who was still a witness. The other claimed to be annointed late in life, she was a realtor, and truly a pain to be around, she was always "holier than thou".
Then there was my grandma, and she was a weirdo too. She constantly nagged the family, quoting scriptures and watchtower articles to us all the time. She was always telling people about vitamins, and different health cures. She was constantly accusing people of child abuse or sexual abuse. She was the driving force behind my family staying in the Borg. She completely denied 1975 ever happened. She also would still talk about 1914 well after the change occured in 1995 - 1996. She constantly spoke of the 1914 Generation, and how I would never graduate high school, I'd never have a job, never get married, etc. She IS a weirdo, completely obsessed with JEHOOBA.
so late last week, i decided that the time was right, and i asked my girlfried to marry me.
i had asked her father earlier in the week for his blessing, which he gave.
we had visited my mother (also df'd) in georgia prior to that, and mom and her hit it off.
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S - I'm very impressed by your romantic side, good work my man.
Well you know, I'm pretty good at that stuff, because sometimes I fall short in other categories (I'm not handy at fixing stuff at all), but I'm very romantic and love cooking and spoiling her, and I know I'm a pain to be around sometimes with my "on the go" schedule. Saturday I sent her and a couple friends to the spa for an afternoon of relaxation, with pedicures, manicures, massages and ear candling... She loved it. She just makes me so happy I can't hardly contain myself.
so late last week, i decided that the time was right, and i asked my girlfried to marry me.
i had asked her father earlier in the week for his blessing, which he gave.
we had visited my mother (also df'd) in georgia prior to that, and mom and her hit it off.
Yeah, her father and mother really appreciated that, and she also loved the fact that I totally surprised her with it, and got down on one knee. When she turned around from looking at the city lights there I was down on one knee with the ring in my hand.
