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  Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

  by Sharpie in

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  shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

  as per doctrine.

  is still alive in heaven right now correct?

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  The whole concept of "original sin" is a tool to remove all hope from the earth. You condemn us for not following laws from some alien world, which defy nature. Then you invent some archetype of the perfect slave, "sacrifice" this never-existing entity, then expect everyone to act like this perfect slave. Once it reaches a sufficient level, it is imposed on all of humanity. And it worked--twice. The first time was when the xians (who were persecuted because they were subverting the Romans) got into the government and then persecuted regular people. And this time, they are pushing communism--our freedom is gone.

  There is no ransom. We are all hostage, not to any original sin, but to the Pleiades laws that defy common sense. That thing they call a god wants to use us up and throw us away--the whole thing of its taking credit for creating us is another way to take away our rights to live proper lives in accordance to natural law. And, eventually we will all be hostages to Noahide Law--and with no ransom provided against that.
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  The Deadly Winter of 2028/29

  by BoogerMan in

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  a brief summary: (not summery!).

  november 2028: the prime minister has announced that all but emergency travel is forbidden due to the dangers of the very cold weather, as predicted by imperial college london computer models.

  everyone except emergency service staff and food retailers must work from home.. to protect people, the government will provide all citizens with a newly designed duffel coat, which when tested on 43 people in clinical trials during a 5 day period, proved completely safe and effective for maintaining body heat.. december 2028: conspiracy theorists are now spreading misinformation on the internet which claim that asbestos fibers are integrated into the duffel coat material, causing many people to reject the offer of a free duffel coat.. january 2029: the government has now issued new directives under the 2028 brass monkey weather act which require that all government & nhs employees must wear the protective duffel coat, or face being dismissed.

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  WTWizard

  And what about those who are smart enough to realize a duffel coat is not going to protect their feet, hands, and face from severe frostbite? Or that people in the Arctic face even worse cold without issues? For this amount of cold, the best protection is keeping your head warm (a hat, not a duffel coat, works best for that), your hands and feet from freezing, and dressing in layers. Thermal underwear, a good heavy sweatshirt, a sweater, and a parka work best for this. And these last as long as the outer layer remains in good condition, not just for a few months.

  Best: When it gets warmer, you simply remove some of the layers.

  As for wearing a specific type of coat, I would rather trust people that endure that type of weather every year on how to adapt to that. Do that, and the cold might not even be serious enough to warrant any emergency action. (Except, perhaps, not going in field circus or to church because doing that is simply a waste of time.)
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  Aussies closed all the coal power plants...now we have blackouts no electricity!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  so we have been "green" blowing up all our coal power plants now they are saying we are like north korea...expect regular power blackouts.

  who is running this show?.

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  And not a peep about not wasting energy. How much energy does a church waste during a service? How much energy do people waste by going to and from church, including jokehovians in field circus? The jokehovians are probably the biggest energy wastrels on the planet--and all the cars they drive in field circus probably puts more carbon dioxide in the air, for stupid things, than those power plants generating needed electricity. (Of which some is used to charge cars that are later used to go to church or in field circus, or to power those churches.)

  While that might not be much, it would at least be a start. Stop going to church (bonus: You also stop supporting with your spiritual energy global enslavement while saving energy). You go to boasting sessions, stop. You go out in field circus, stop. That would not only save energy, but perhaps give those who want us regressing their own energy crisis--in the form of a shortage of spiritual energy.
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  Worship study this week

  by road to nowhere in

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  since i need to keep up for family's sake i "study"(skim, its not deep).

  worship: pray, study ( wt), go to meetings ( formal, not gathering 2 or 3), preach.

  thrn add helping build halls, donating, and since donations go one way only, give material aid to others.. note construction time isn't for service,( but i may have turned in time for it).

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  And they wonder why I donate nothing? This is pure communism--you are expected to donate what they feel you can, so they can allocate it to where you don't want (such as your next Africa mission). I don't get any value for donating--aside negative value in the form of curses. So they are not getting another penny from me.

  After all, I do not want to finance their forcing me to do a life long mission through Africa.
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  Hospitality for speaker

  by road to nowhere in

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  there seem to be hospitality starting again.

  fully vaccinated and assume masked.

  neither a set in stone rule.

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  They want what I call hospitality? I hope they like Christmas music the whole time, with my sun-worship lights on (all summer). Or, Led Zeppelin music. And I will "forget" about their dietary restrictions, and deny any liability for anything that happens as a result. Their sole recourse is not to be stupid enough to ask me again.

  They don't provide me with anything but curses and bad luck, so they don't deserve anything from me except getting sick and having their bad luck right back. And "sick" doesn't mean this wimpy coronavirus. I mean Spanish flu sick.
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  1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  theres a couple of threads re: 1914 on the board right now and it got me thinking.. the jw doctrine of the 1914 generation is a key doctrine , yet it is probably the number one reason most have left over the decades.. 1975- within one generation.. 1995 - new understanding of the word generation.. 2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.. 2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring david splane.. its obvious the org is changing the goalposts and constantly trying to squeeze as much time as they can before they have to abandon this altogether.

  or will they come up with something new?.

  does anyone else think this ever changing doctrine is responsible for the biggest loss of members?.

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  You want genuine growth? In Europe, America, and Australia, this is not going to do the job. Altering these "a generation" is not going to keep people in those lands active. And without this, where are they going to come up with money and missionaries to send to Africa so they can keep those numbers propped up?

  You might get people in parts of the world where ignorance is supreme with this. Try this in Nigeria, Cameroon, The Congo, Burundi, and the areas surrounding this, and most people there will fall for it. But, who is going to be willing to help if they realize the whole jokehovian system is bogus? No one is going to learn to speak French (much of Africa is French speaking) or Spanish (as in Latin America), suffer the hardships, and do all that hard work for a bad religion where they can't even keep the narrative straight.

  Not to mention the persecution. Last I knew, the work is banned in Burundi (besides, anyone interested in missionary work there needs to become fluent in French). What other countries will be next? And, even where it is legal, you get tribal persecution--and who wants to learn those languages? All for a religion where "the truth" keeps being altered like this.

  Sure, they might see growth there. But without missionaries, those congregations will be left to flounder. Not to mention, there is no money coming from America or Europe--there goes the means to spread more of those worthless bibles in the Third World.
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  How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

  by blondie in

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  i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

  watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

  you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

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  Killing someone can get you disqualified from doing those wasteful missions, pious-sneering, or other bothersome tasks. Smoking weed can get you disfellowshipped.

  Last I checked, adult possession of weed is legal in many states. True, I do not recommend using this because it will ruin your brain and your liver (and your soul). But, if you are wanted for serious crimes, I would think the obligation is to blow them in. We are not talking stupid parking ticket offenses or petit larceny here, but crimes such as murder and forcible rape. And, all this will get the offender is disqualification in pious-sneering, cleaning toilets, and possibly that next Israel mission?

  I didn't want to go on any of those stupid missions anyways. Not Israel. Not Latin America. Not Africa. Not parts of India. No nothing.
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  Booster shots required for Bethelites and special full time servants?

  by PimoElder in

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  2. beliefs

  it’s a shame the gov body did a big u turn on vaccines .

  if they continue with the rule that only fully vaxed can go back to the hall then i could have stayed on zoom.

  but the term fully vaxed is a moving target, if it’s been like six months since your last shot you are just the same as those of us who are unvaxed .

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  WTWizard

  I wonder if those who are dumb enough to do missionary work will need those coronavirus shots every 6 months now. Have fun with that with missionaries working in countries like Burundi (where it is banned in the first place, plus they barely have the necessities of life) or parts of the Congo (where there is barely access to the outside world at all). And have fun keeping missionaries from getting real sick (too sick to work at all) while in this work, once they get their shots. (Without ballyhooing them for doing this work while extremely sick.)

  This means getting forced to get my torture shots as part of getting forced into this disgusting work. I do not want to live in Africa or South America for a prolonged period of time. I do not want to work with or around that filthy bible, or the hebrew language contained therein. I do not want to help people to "find" jesus or joke-hova. And I am just fine with the Amazon "shot" for coronavirus--the only "shot" that actually works (which is quercetin).
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  Directions that don't make sense to us

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us.

  however, jehovah blesses obedience.

  .......watchtower november 2021 study article 47 paragraph 11. for example:for example: so the king(david) said to joab go take a census of israel (2 samuel 24: 1.....) .

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  Blind obedience. We gave you a brain, and now you are not allowed to use more than 1/1,000,000 of 1% of it. And always to the advantage of those at the top--and the detriment of those under. They go against nature, ruining their souls in ways they cannot even imagine at the time. And, what about that one dingbat that insists on everyone in the congregation getting vaccinated and boosted for the wimpiest "disease" on the planet or being taken for "brazen conduct"? Or the one that thinks anyone using good things (perhaps even 10 years old and still in excellent condition) instead of going to walmart and buying junk that costs 1/3 as much (and putting plastic in the ocean in the process) is "throwing away money"?
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  Jehovah’s witnesses and compulsory voting in Australia.

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do jehovah’s witnesses do during election period in australia?

  i learnt voting is compulsory in australia and those who choose not to vote are fined.

  do jehovah’s witnesses pay such fines?.

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  Voting should be allowed, but of course the jokehovians will think of anyone that gives in and votes under mandatory voting as "spiritually weak" or even as "brazen conduct" to avoid directly disfellowshipping anyone for voting. Every legal citizen should be allowed to cast one vote. I would view it as wrong to rig the election, say so communism and tyranny can rule--to the point where anyone pushing communism in this way is an enemy to the state and deserves the death penalty for high treason. (Especially at the levels that it has been happening in France, Italy, Germany, Canada, and the United Tyranny of Stupidity as of late.

  But, making voting mandatory is just as bad. In light of what happened in the above countries where the majority of people voted for freedom only to have their votes thrown out and votes for tyranny fabricated, voting has become a useless exercise. Anyone opposing tyranny is seen as the enemy, and votes for freedom are drowned out or "lost". And this should not be seen as a chance for the washtowel to crack down on voting--itself a form of manipulating the election. Preventing legal citizens from voting prevents them from voting for freedom instead of tyranny.