Posts by fresia

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Undercover apostates...

by Maze in

i've observed some forum users here that claim to be active witnesses (even claims to be ministerial servants or elders) while duplicitously supporting apostates online.

my contention is this; why attend meetings and/or participate in the preaching activity when the second you divulge your apostate thinking into the congregation, you'll be disfellowshipped?

while this action taken may seem to be harsh, the outworking of events wouldn't be much different in one of christendom's churches.

JWF said...People stay in for the sake of family. This is very common, and the more I learn and more people I talk to, the more I feel most congregations have people in this situation. My heart goes out to them, as it is a terrible situation to be forced into.

Since Holy Spirit does not reveal these people, it is a good indication that God is not directingt the congregations. There is even a book about a disfellowshipped mother that got reinstated purely for the reason to help her daughter see it is not the truth.

Totally agree with you, and I have found so many are unhappy.

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What book are JW's studying At the moment?

by Pig in

plus which book was the worse?.

i'd say daniel book.

boring as all shit and crap pictures.

fresia

It is a WT book study period, thats it!

Everyone just cowers to the WT interpretation of not the bible but the WTBTS own original interpretation of the bible, that is what its come to defending not the bible but the WTBTS and its GB apostates.

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As The Governing Body Tightens its Grip...

by passwordprotected in

two and a half years ago i predicted that the governing body was going to have to tighten its grip on the rank and file witnesses.. "it's time to get in the compound, brothers and sisters...." it's classic sleight of hand.

distract your audience.

pull off the trick.

fresia

The GB are running out of excuses for their 1914 error which was predicted to happen. (2Thess 2:11) They are the stupid prophets. (Ez 13:3)

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As for the current Governing Body members, they are "fakes."

by possible-san in

well, .... although i have stated in this forum several times, and probably also other people stated about it, i would like to say again now.. as for the current governing body members, they are the "fake anointed.".

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/notes-on-governing-body-of-jehovahs.html.

the greatest tragedy of today's jehovah's witnesses is that fakes/liars are guiding the organization.. people who have served jehovah for years should remember the "basic doctrine.".

fresia

I understand what you want to say.
In my forum, a person who talked with one of the current Governing Body said that "he was sincere/honest."

But even if that is true, I have judged "they are insincere/dishonest."
In this thread, I explained the reason which I consider/feel so.

Indeed, all doctrines/teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses are not bad as you say.
I myself was an earnest Jehovah's Witness formerly.

But I never forgive their action because I have believed that doctrine sincerely.
They do not believe that (the "basic doctrine" with regard to 1935) clearly.

Of course you are correct with what you have quoted. Thing is they have not been very honest about admitting their mistakes, instead they try to cover up their mistakes with goofy unscriptual beliefs, like the generation changes, to try and fix up their stupid mistakes.

What is even more tragic is that many JW are not crying and groaning about the destible things happening with in their own congregations instead they choose to do as their masters do bury their head or make up excuses to cover it.

Running ahead of God was their mistake and they choose because of hubris not to repent. What I see today is a group of old men stuck in the tradition of the 1914 lie, and trying to hold on to it by making up other unscriptual doctrines to keep that tradition and shaky foundation standing.

2Thess 2: 3-12

As said we take what we can out of the food given, a lot is moral and based on scripture, the rest is history we will have to see.

It all depends on if you still see that this is Gods organization. And if one truly reads the bible looking for answers as to why and what happened they will find the answers, was prophesied to happen.

Thank you for your post and your views and thoughts.

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As for the current Governing Body members, they are "fakes."

by possible-san in

well, .... although i have stated in this forum several times, and probably also other people stated about it, i would like to say again now.. as for the current governing body members, they are the "fake anointed.".

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/notes-on-governing-body-of-jehovahs.html.

the greatest tragedy of today's jehovah's witnesses is that fakes/liars are guiding the organization.. people who have served jehovah for years should remember the "basic doctrine.".

fresia

We don't know for sure if all a fakes, there may be some honest hearted ones, as the scriptures say that the wheat and the weeds grow together. Not all of what comes from the WT table is bad.

Its up to each of us to decide what is in accord with the bible and is this righteous teachings.

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De Bono's thinking skills and family study

by jwfacts in

i am ready edward de bono's teach your children how to think.

in it he has a 6 hats method of thinking about a subject.

imagine a family applying this method during family study.

fresia

there is nothing on your post JWFacts?

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Elders Wives/kids

by exwhyzee in

how many elders wives or kids have looked at the congregation files without their husband/father knowing about it?

anyone here have any knowledge of this.

how foolish anyone is to go to these people if they keep a written record/file on you.

fresia

I think a some elders are real sleezy, and I wouldn't trust going to most with a personal problem and as for their wives most are just hanging in themeselves.

I know that they keep files for years, and the thought of some upstart snotty little elder veiwing a mature persons file makes me want to smash them.

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KS10 Chapter Three

by yknot in

chapter three from 'shepherding the flock of go' published by the wts of penn/ny as part of their worldwide bible educational work.

the wts is a non-profit whose publications are not for sale but are freely given to those who show 'genuine' interest..... while not required, a donation is always joyfully accepted .

well i was going to stick to the boe ltr for a 'pre-view' but somebody deleted my sendspace links.

fresia

I caught that as well. What happened to child abusers won't serve again?

hi UNDERCOVER. I think that its just been an apologists lie they have spread on forums, I have not read anywhere where the WT says that a pedophile brother would never serve again as an elder or someone in a position. But what I have read from apologists on this subject is that pedophiles will never have a position in the KH nor privileges.

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KS10 Chapter Three

by yknot in

chapter three from 'shepherding the flock of go' published by the wts of penn/ny as part of their worldwide bible educational work.

the wts is a non-profit whose publications are not for sale but are freely given to those who show 'genuine' interest..... while not required, a donation is always joyfully accepted .

well i was going to stick to the boe ltr for a 'pre-view' but somebody deleted my sendspace links.

fresia

From Chapter three para 20 says...

20. If the sin occurred before he was appOinted as

an elder or a ministerial servant, the elders will need

to take into consideration the fact that he should

have mentioned this possible impediment to his being

qualified when elders interviewed him just prior

to announcing his appointment. Moreover, the nature

of the sin may reflect greatly on his qualifications

to serve. For example, the sin may involve past

child abuse, and this would likely disqualify him for

many years.-w971/1 pp. 26-29; w77 pp. 697-698.

38 "Shepherd the Flock ofGod"-l Peter 5:2

I thought that pedophiles were never allowed to be elders again, or elders. "For example, the sin may involve past

child abuse, and this would likely disqualify him for many ."

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Why dont Jehovah Witness pioneers and baptized publishers like the title 'Ordained Minister?'

by Joliette in

i watched a video on this, and an independent filmmaker was asking a brother why dont jehovah's witnesses publishers and pioneers consider themselves to be ordanined ministers.

he went to a scripture and then said that the reason why we do this work, is to help our neighboors learn about the bible and live there lives according to it.

he seemed to distance himself from the title 'ordained minister.

fresia

JW are not ordained ministers according to the world, they are ministers of Christ and the bible by the WTBTS, so they are ordained by the WTBTS, which means jack shit.