fresia

Joined

• started 4 topics
• posted 425 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by fresia

• 
  12

  Rupert Murdoch: Scientologists 'creepy, maybe even evl'

  by skeeter1 in

  1. social
  2. current

  rupert murdoch: scientologists creepy, maybe even evil by dylan stableford, yahoo!

  news | the lookout 7 hrs agorupert murdoch delivers a keynote address on education reform in san francisco on oct. 14, 2011.

  (ap).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia
• 
  41

  Victoria, Australia: Brief Update - Steven Unthank is still Acting Prosecutor, etc.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  court hearing results for december 6, 2011:.

  steven unthank is still the acting prosecutor (and that's why he could not comment on the case on the"dialogue" program), and all 5 cases are still before the courts.

  the crown informed the court that the office of public prosecutions are "acting as a facilitator at the moment"; and that the police investigation is "quite well progressed"; and that the police are awaiting response from the department of justice.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  I don't understand why this congregation, unless they have something to hide, could it be that their is a pedophile among them, can't see who a child giving a bible reading is so wrong, I mean his parents are present, this is just upsetting the child.

  More damage could come out of this if their is no real legitimate reason why they should investigate this congregation. I they refused to apply with WWC for trying to cover up something fine, otherwise I don't understand why they have targeted this congregation.
• 
  15

  The New Elder School, Did It Really Help Teach You Something Helpful?

  by AvocadoJake in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new elder school, appears to be a major flop and a waste of time for the society, the more i research it.

  it appears much of the information the elders learned, went in one ear out the other, a failure to implent it.

  if you attended this school, have you notice these newly "fired up and full of zeal brothers eager to help?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  How has it fizzled out! you mean no elder is showing more love, don't understand what you mean?
• 
  21

  Who knows GB email adresses?

  by mauiboy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just an idea: could we contact members of the gb thru email...or even snail mail, to let them know how many of us are aware of what is on the horizon in australia with the wwc/unthank/victoria court case with hopes of urging them to come clean.

  if i were amongst the gb members, i would be losing sleep after watching whats happening to penn states joe paterno, jerry sandusky and mcqeary for taking part in the pedophilia scandal cover-up and the responsibility they did not fulfill in contacting the the police to handle the situation instead of handing it of to their next-up superior.

  i doubt the gb would be so honest as to take any action, but it would be interesting to test the idea.......make them squirm, perhaps.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  they will assume you are a brother and will do as they all do, keep preaching and wait on Jehovah.

  they usually don't read personal mail, and the secretary or whoever it is have the same reply to everything. keep preaching and wait on Jehovah.
• 
  3

  Family Feud and JW,s

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the question, who would you most likely hide from.

  when they knock at your door.

  the contestant, my.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  sales man.
• 
  43

  Why Women Are Treated Second Class In This Organization?

  by AvocadoJake in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the best bible scholars have been women in my realm of this religious world.

  the women study their husbands watchtowers, prepare the parts, write their talks, put their ties on, get the shave cream out of their ears.

  it must be hard and you must have the patiences of job, to be able to listen to, the many arrogant men and how you will (if you are a female annointed.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  the society fears women, they look at things in a more compassionate way and this opens up for complaints about unloving brothers, and the way elders treat others, its unity that the society holds most dear, and fear of that unity breaking is real concern, women I have found are better teachers, they are also much more zealous in the field ministry.

  notice that most of gossiping articles are always directed at women, dress codes usually always at women. Single women in particular get a bad deal in the org, as they are on the bottom of the pile, so to speak. The society knows there are not enough single brothers for the sisters, but notice that in WT articles, in never says that, it just marry only in the Lord.

  The WT is in a lot of trouble there are not enough mature me to take the lead, an women out number them.

  Also a lot of brothers have inadequacies and don't like being out shined by a women with more bible knowledge.
• 
  29

  Is there any way around this? (Preaching when you don't believe)

  by venusinfauxfurs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i figure i can do more to wake friends and family up on the inside than the outside and i didn't come to that decision without a great deal of pain.

  i know it's not "the truth" but it isn't a bad life for me,and i still very much believe in god.

  the witnesses aren't right but neither are the mormons, the catholics, etc and i have other family devoted to both those faiths.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  Stick to what you do believe (unless you don't believe in God anymore, then just quit) speak of Jesus parables, sermon on the mount, if you believe in the kingdom still, speak of the freedom and justice the kingdom will bring, end of suffering etc

  If the issue of 1914 arises, usually say this is what the society or WT teaches at present. Try to avoid bible studies.
• 
  44

  JWs Depression and Suicide

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since jehovah's witnesses supposedly have "the truth" and are part of god's visible organization living in a "spiritual paradise" you would naturally expect that they should be the happiest people on earth!

  this clearly is not the case.

  wha happened?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  I know of three in the past two years, two in my KH and another of a friend who was DF. And I know for a fact that JW see psychologists on a regular basis, one group is a whole family. JW are not getting the help they need within the org, or from the magazines.

  One reason I believe that mental illness and unhappiness is rife in the org, is because the feelings of worthlessness, not do enough, never being able to please and being judged by the hours ones put in, the WT religion is an abuse controlling one, that effects lots of JW in the long run, many being told they will never grow old and die, finding themselves fifty forty yrs later having to work even longer to support themselves.

  The GB of JW should be taken to court, I wish someone could some how sue the pants of these crazy rulers, for misleading lying and abusing the many innocent JW that in all good faith thought they were doing the right thing. How many have died because of their nutty rules on organ transplants for one. Some JW no doubt have a chemical imbalance and this religion wouldn't help while other develop depression because of the religion and its control on their lives. Alcohol abuse is not uncommon with in either. The only ones that seem content are those that have high positions and get glory, or are looked up to, these include bethelites, lawyers, and of course the infamous GB, elders have a lot on their hands, and are usually the fall guys when things go wrong. There is obiously corruption in this religion, but at the end of the day what goes round comes round, or if you spit at the wind it will come right back at you.

  Some JW know its not the truth or they have very strong doubts, but are trapped because of family, some being in the relgion from birth and generations of JW in the family. It is very sad, and we should not look down on those that are suffering rather we should pray for them.

  It is a business and an abusive religion based on fear and control and money.
• 
  3

  Who, then, is the mentally diseased class?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who, then, are the mentally diseased ones:those who choose to carefully weight and evaluate the teachings offered as truth?

  orthose who choose to shut off their minds and just believe what theyre told to believe?.

  the discussion and analysis continues here..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  all WT apologists, along with the GB and their hench men lawyers.
• 
  8

  WT: Only JWs and idiots will survive Armageddon...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since there is compelling and overwhelming evidence that jehovah is the true and living god, creator and supreme sovereign of the universe, the plea of ignorance cannot be admitted in its full latitude except for idiots.

  the atheists cannot plead ignorance.

  the agnostics cannot plead ignorance.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fresia

  The GB like to make JW feel real special with all the sugar they put in their magazines stating that only JW will survive armageddon, its another false teaching along with one has to be part of the organization to survive.

  One way to keep the flock in fear and looking to the them instead of Jesus.