Something i just heard the spirit say: "Truely I say to you today, a prideful and hypocritical Jehovah's Witness commits just as bad sin as a 'worldly' person that has commited adultery. Those that live by the law are judged by the law and those that live by the ransom are forgiven by the ransom." :-D ~FS
FiveShadows
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baptising minors
by Marilyn intonights news has made me think even harder about baptising minors.
it's one thing to hold adults accountable for breaking wt rules, but it's not right to subject kids to the harshness of shunning for doing what their parents encouraged them to do - get baptised.
when ever my kids screw up, i'm not that thrilled but i ultimately blame myself for my inadequate parenting - and yes i've been fairly inadequate at times.
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Congregation records - question to ex/act elders
by BeelzeDub inthe flock book states the following in unit 5(a) page 102:.
unit 5a page 102 .
_ if a baptized person insists that he does not want to be .
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Translation: Disfellowshipment or Disassociation. I am no elder but i do know this much: You are never taken OFF the records. When i was sent to speak to the elders in regards what was going on and my Lords stand behind all this, the Elders forcefully kept asking the question "Do you want to remain in association with Jehovahs Spirit guided organization?" I heard a voice say "If you say No they will disfellowship or disassociate you" This question is a tricky question because you assume that they are saying "are you gonna be coming to the meetings again?" or something along the lines of "are you gonna be continue talking to us?" ...when in actuality it says "Our way or the highway" I kept saying to them "i am not in liberty to discuss that." Over and over and over again. The elders began to get very mad and one particular elder got impatient and asked that question about 3 or 4 times in a row without anything else being said. And Everytime He said so he kept being more forcefull and even made the comment "What are you holding ON to Aceson??." Showing how badly he desired for me to be disfellowshiped. I was later disfellowshiped without cause like many other people. ~FS
Edited by - fiveshadows on 24 September 2002 14:45:40
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Stigmata!
by FiveShadows inhas anyone ever seen the movie "stigmata?
" ... except for the actual stigmata..and the baptism...the message of the movie is inspired!
"the kingdom of god is inside you...and all around you.
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well as i said...beside from the actual stigmata..the message is true. I honestly don't believe that Christ would make us go through that same thing as he did. the stigmata itself was a lie..but the message i believe is Truth. Can't throw out the entire carton of eggs if one or two are broken. ~FS
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Walking In Apostasy
by COMF insung to the tune of "walking in integrity" * .
please hear me, y'all.
you witness dubs, and all.
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I heard a voice say this once...and realized how true it really is. "In order to reach a moment of sanity, one must look insane"
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Stigmata!
by FiveShadows inhas anyone ever seen the movie "stigmata?
" ... except for the actual stigmata..and the baptism...the message of the movie is inspired!
"the kingdom of god is inside you...and all around you.
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Has anyone ever seen the movie "Stigmata?" ... except for the actual stigmata..and the baptism...the message of the movie is inspired! "the kingdom of God is inside you...and all around you. Not in buildings made of wood and stone. Split a peice of wood and i am there; lift a stone and you shall find me." I looked it up in the bible and realized it was a mistransulation where it says "the kingdom of God is in your midst"...It's suppose to give the message of "INSIDE you" ... and the funny thing is...there IS AN actual "gospel" found in 1945 that, that message was written in. Any thoughts? ~FS
Edited by - fiveshadows on 14 September 2002 16:26:11
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Goodbye.................
by Princess inmulan and i are off to the "happiest place on earth", disneyland.
we are leaving early monday and will be back late friday.
oh yeah, we're taking the kids too.. be nice now.
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bring me back a cookie! ~FS
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Wanna E-mail George W Bush?
by cellomould instop the rush to war
most americans agree that iraqs longtime dictator, saddam hussein, is a sadistic thug.
despite this, white house calls for a massive, preemptive invasion of iraq are dangerously misguided, and not in tune with americans current priorities.
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You said:
None of you pacifists ever have any solutions on dealing with true evil, you just assume that if we are nice and give them what they want they'll become good. This is a lie. We are in a struggle, a battle.
That is an ASSUMPTION on your part. I never made any statement like the one you are accusing me of. If i remember correctly i said"If MAN would only LISTEN to the one giving DIVINE WARNING ...they would not NEED to save anyone...but all would be saved."
Which is actually in Isaiah 48:17,18, Hebrews 12:25. Your country (as it does say so in your profile you're from the United States correct me if i'm wrong.) Does or does not say "In God we trust?" If they truely did trust in God..and have faith in Him and His Son Christ Jah-Eshua, then what are they so worried about? Why are they being so paranoid? And trying to handle the situation with their OWN actions...which puts more blood on their hands. INNOCENT blood. This is a lack of (or none) Faith...and Man is trying to guide his OWN footsteps (Jeremiah 10:23). If God wanted to go to war as He did in the days of Joshua, ..He would have said so. But this cannot be so, because God is not going to say "bomb the heck out of Japan where innocent women,man, and children live."
The ONLY time this (when God allowed someone innocent to die to save others) was done was when Jah-Eshua ..the King of Israel gave His LIFE in BEHALF of the WHOLE world. After this ...there was no need to have innocent people DIE so OTHERS may be "saved." Why? Because the Ransom from Death was paid...and this was no longer needed.Why did Death wish for the blood of Christ? Because Christ is LIFE (John 14:6) and DEATH wishes to consume LIFE to sustain Himself. But Death proved to be selfish and wished to hold the whole world in ...that which He promised would release in behalf of the blood of Christ. (John 8:44,Proverbs 27:20, Mt 20:28, Acts 2:24, Psalms 68:18,20, Hosea 13:14 )Therefore my Father resurrected Christ and gave the whole world an opportunity to be saved by MEANS of His Son. (John 3:16,17) If anyone wanted to LIVE all they had to do is Listen and obey the Father's Will. That being that ANYONE that BELIEVES(not just know, but BELIEVE) in Jah-Eshua ...will be saved. (John 6:40) You believe in Life...you will have Life...(John 11:25)you believe in Death...you will have Death. You believe that ALL life is the fleshly life when in actuality it's an illusion set before you to hide you from the advesary and His Father ..Death. We are the symbolic form of the Reality that exists in the OTHER dimensions. Or as the bible states "heavens." Yet when one innocent fleshly life is murdered ...That one may ask for vengence in the Reality that exist outside the physical. And Man has shed much innocent blood. Are you not aware it says "to LOVE your enemies and to do good to those hating you?" (Luke 6:27) This is put here for YOUR benefit. For if you shed innocent blood and not shown love to your enemies...then you yourself are not living by the ransom but by the law because you have judged out a sentence upon someone...and likewise you are judged are you not? (Mt 7:1-2) Those that live by the law are JUDGED by the law.(James 4:11) Those that live by the ransom are saved by the ransom. Most truly i say to you..of what benefit is it for you to shed innocent blood and judge in the flesh and likewise be judged in the reality that exists in heaven and receive death? (Mt 16:26 John 12:25)If only you would put aside your pride and listen to Jah-Eshua..."would you're peace be like the WAVES of the Sea." ~FS
Edited by - FiveShadows on 8 September 2002 17:49:49
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Wanna E-mail George W Bush?
by cellomould instop the rush to war
most americans agree that iraqs longtime dictator, saddam hussein, is a sadistic thug.
despite this, white house calls for a massive, preemptive invasion of iraq are dangerously misguided, and not in tune with americans current priorities.
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Edge,
I am young that i do admit. Whether it was a million ...or fraction...one life is TOO much. I am not clueless...my purpose of the post was to show what MAN has done. Not to get into why MAN THINKS their actions are JUSTIFIED when they're NOT. H bomb A bomb ..i don't care...i don't study nuclear weapons...and nor do i have any desire to study something that will do such damage. The point is...war began in the first place because of MAN'S pride, and the love of money. Am i really that clueless? Lets analyze this: One country decides to take over another, destroy another...or any unjustified reason. Be that assassination of Archduke Ferdinand before WW1...or Pride...love of money...domination...extermination of races... Am i really THAT clueless when i point out the flaws and hypocrisy of governments, yet others go on supporting any judgement rendered by governments and do not even see the hypcrisy? Where one nation rises against another...yet it has slaughtered "a fraction" of a million people? My friend i bid you peace...however Saying i am totally clueless in this aspect is foolishness on your part. Man will never learn because it's pride has been glorified by eachother. He TRIES to justify his actions by anyway yet he himself has done the same thing previously. MAN may sit and say "We saved so many people" yadda yadda yadda...but why do you have to 'SAVE.' If MAN would only LISTEN to the one giving DIVINE WARNING ...they would not NEED to save anyone...but all would be saved. It doesn't take a rocket scienctist to see hypocrasy. Man points the finger at whomever is responsible for 9/11 and thinks bombing Afghanistan or going towards any other nation with war is justified, Yet man has killed INNOCENT people (just as 9/11) himself. Hypocrite! Two wrongs don't make a right.I do not promote ignorant statements over and over again...for what i have spoken is Truth. If it is not truth then i will render an account for it. However if it is..why do you persecute me? I see 2 World Wars ...and countless other wars fought for unjustifed reasons. All countries sitting there praying to my Father for assistance...And yet none of them do my Father's will. They argue fight and scream at eachother like idiots. If i have offended you ..i apologize...but my Father, did He not say "Thou shalt not shed innocent blood?" Yet man has done this with their A-Bomb then as hyporcites say "In God we trust". Perhaps the Truth is too much for some people, and that's why they try to find reasons to justify their actions. How "clueless" man really is when they do not even KNOW they're being hypocrites. ~That is why i do not support man made governments...so i do not think when a government goes to bomb the heck out of another...it's justified...which would make ME a hypocrite because i would be in agreement with the government's JUDGEMENT for anothers. "do not judge so that you are not judged with the same judgement you render out towards others." I pray that Jah of Armies and Jah-Eshua the Christ ...bless you and your entire household. Peace to you my friend. ~FS
Edited by - fiveshadows on 7 September 2002 19:49:42
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NEW LIGHT!!!!!!!!!
by minimus inwe heard new light this evening.
a local needs talk was given about how anyone that knows someone might be dating a non- witness and doesn't report it to the elders is actually hindering the free flow of jehovah's holy spirit.
yes, if the "sin" goes unreported, the whole congregation will be affected, just as in the case of achan and his family!
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Holy spirit is Free....to anyone asking...worldly...jw...christian...buddist...anyone yes? ...jw's are so stupid sometimes ~FS