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  what do you sleep in?

  by megaflower in

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  i prefer nothing

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  kurtbethel

  What? So far no one sleeps in a Kingdom Hall? I thought lots of people did that.
  
  What are they good for then?
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  Were the Cananites evil or were they simply destroyed for their land?

  by jambon1 in

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  from the jw's/bible standpoint, was there good reason for 'god' to wipe out the cananite nation or was it just to give the jews the promised land?

  please help me with this one if you can.

  thanks.

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  kurtbethel

  The Caananites did have some prime real estate that was desirable to the little Hebrew tribe. Also, they had bad worship practices and a particularly nasty chief god named El.
  
  Hmmmm. ISis-RA-EL. Israel.
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  Interview today

  by JK666 in

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  today i go for an interview for my dream job.

  i start the sojourn in a few minutes, as it is a 3 hour drive.

  please send good vibes and/or prayers my way if you are able.

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  Be sure to pick stray food particles from your teeth!
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  Another jest from the Watchtower art dept. (WT 07 07/15)

  by cultswatter in

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  the following picture is from page 17 of the july 15 2007 watchtower magazine.

  the next picture is on page 18 .

  these pictures are on opposite sides of the same page.

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  "Anyone wonder what the Watchtower Jesus would look like with his beard shaved off? You know, if Jesus were a good faithful clean-shaven dubbie. I am also struck at how the first picture is indebted to the negative (steroetypical) portrayal of Jews in Christian art -- could the expressions be any more grotesque?"

  Watchtower Jesus did get a haircut and shave when he checked in at Brooklyn in 1914.

  Details: http://www.freewebs.com/watchtowerkarma/haircut_and_shave.html
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  Watchtower Question from readers= Slams hunting??? Why???

  by Witness 007 in

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  even though the bible does not condemn hunting watch them push their personal opinion and trun it into watchtower law.. watchtower dec 1 2007 p.31 "how should christians view hunting?

  } "the bible does not condemn hunting or fishing.." {great leave it there..no need to push personal thoughts on brothers, right?

  } ".....the apostles who were fisherman were likely gratified by a good catch.

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  Ah, so I can see the WT would favor Cain and his sacrifice over that spiritually weak hunter Abel!
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  Thank you, my friends

  by Doug Mason in

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  dear friends,.

  i would like to say thank you for the gratitude expressed for the scans i have been providing.. i had the time to do this while i was sitting at my computer during the hours, days and weeks that i cared for my very sick wife.

  at the moment, my partner of 46 years lies very ill in hospital, so you will understand that i currently do not have the time to scour the various threads and posts.

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  kurtbethel

  Doug,
  
  Hey bro' we are all grateful here that you put something in to the body of research we all need to understand the way things really are. Thanks!
  
  Kurt
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  Freemasons, tied to JW's?

  by hanginloose in

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  hi all, i'm new to logon here.

  i'm not a jw, or an ex-jw, so i hope you don't mind my posting.

  i have had some history with studying with them.

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  kurtbethel

  My research has pointed to several intersections between Bible Students and freemasonry.
  
  There are the obvious symbols, such as pyramid, cross & crown, winged solar disk, and several others that are shared by both schools of thought.
  
  There is also shared terminology. "New World Order", "New Order", "New World", "widow's son" and "fatherless boy", "Golden Age", "Golden Dawn", "Millenial Dawn" are several that immediately come to mind.
  
  Following these links lead to interesting connections. One branch leads to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. There are further links to Rosicrucians and other groups, some of which teach of the Four Watchtowers at the corners of the Earth. One interesting connection leads to Aleister Crowley, whose disciple Jack Parsons was involved in rocket research along with the occult. His activities were part of the founding of the JPL in Pasadena, which is the agency that manages planetary space probes. Parsons was closely associated with L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology.
  
  Wandering down all these rabbit holes can sure make your head spin.
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  GODS OF THE WATCHTOWER

  by tula in

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  (my commentary: compare this illustration taken from an internet site to the red headed "great harlot" on page 239 of your revelation book.).

  she was worshiped as queen of heaven and patron of marriage and women.

  she also held the title eileithyia, the goddess of birth.

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  I saw in the Revelation Climax book, on page 277, there is Frosty hair Jesus consorting with the Queen of Heaven.
  
  I asked the study conductor why that was so, and he did not have any idea why. When I learned that the WT considers itself to be "mother" I began to put it together.
  
  We are dealing with a creepy religion here folks.
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  Went to a party in Lick Skillet, Alabama

  by dinah in

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  it's an honest to god town.

  goober from andy griffith grew up there.. we were at a birthday party for my brother-in-law's brother.

  i ain't kin to these people.. they even had their web address posted in wood!

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  Well I reckon you ain't no graduate of the Possum Trot school.
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lilesphoto/830494522/
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  My first visit to the Kingdom Hall

  by FlyAway2 in

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  let me just start off by saying wow.

  never thought the day would come i'd see myself write that kind of title.

  so, you may or may not remember me from my post a few weeks ago about my ex-jw g/f from europe wanting to see what a meeting was like in the states.

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  kurtbethel

  Thanks for the account of your journey down the rabbit hole.
  
  It may come about that I visit a kingdom hall and it is good to have an idea what to expect.
  
  If that happens, I will publish my trip report here, natch.