we had a guy in my old KH that threatened a guy he had never met when he visited our KH. He had this whole crazy story about how this guy was harassing him for years but they had never met. He threatened to "kill" the guy right in the KH.
I talked to the elders about this and got filled in on how "out to lunch" this guy really was.....
of course that didnt happen either.
could you please read deut 18:20 aloud once, more?.
could you read deut 18:20 aloud again for me?.
Did the moon refuse to give its light during those years?they have answers to all of these. dont you know? Its all "spiritual" application. Everything is invisible, and spiritually speaking, that way nothing can be disproved with logic. Blind faith will dismiss logic.
How about the stars? Did they fall from heaven?
Did all the tribes of earth mourn at that time?
i was "counseled"* for being mad that my jw boyfriend began dating my sister.
it was wrong of me to have feelings.
any embarrassment i felt was due to being puffed up with pride.
i was counceled for being a musician. Can you believe it? Ya, cause that dude from Sly and the family stone said you cant be in a band and be a JW.
The elder actually quoted that article about him. Uhm, slight difference between my garage band and a world-touring chart-topping iconic rock group.....
Anyway, i was Aux Pioneer at the time and being in a band was not conducive to pioneering..... so i quit pioneering.
I know a sister that was sent home by her husband to change her skirt. It came 1" above her knee, if she didnt go home to change the elders told him they would not announce his new appt. to MS. She went home and changed into a skirt that went 1" below the knee and he was appointed an MS that night. The most rediculous thing I had ever heard. This really happened in my old cong about 5 years ago.
For me, this is a pretty good economy right now, but I'm a down market guy. I just wish interest rates were about 8% CD rates.
I hate inflation mixed up with LOW interest.
exactly.
for those with 30 years or more to invest the down markets are where the money is made. But get ready, inflation is coming to the US and big time!
american inflation will drive down the USD, making them more competetive so that will help. BUT, inflation is going to be out of control in the US when 9 Trillion dollars makes its way to the real economy. Some economist are predicting a 60 Cent USD to the CDN Dollar in 2 years.
that will drive my CDN dollar up. while that is not good for the CDN economy it is very good for the business I am in. Plus I dont live outside of my means so I have almost no debt. So right now my mortgage interest rate is rediculously low and I continue to make overpayments on it as i know when i renew my rates will go up.
Really, there is little financial crisis for people that managed their money responsibley during the up years.
7 out of 10 years are up, that means 3 are down. Why cant people figure this out? its not a mistake, or a tribulation, its how are economy works and has always worked. Dont cross your fingers and hope it doesnt happen - it must happen. It will always happen.
I used to be in manufacturing but I saw the writing on the wall back in the 90's and went back to school. thank goodness for that. A lot of JW's work in mfr'ing and will be out of work. With no education they will view this as "Tribulation".
co is visiting this week and they stress not to miss a meeting during his stay.
you'd think god himself was in town.
what's the big deal?
So, the chain of command goes like this ...
Jehovah God > Jesus > Governing Body > CO > PO > Elders > R&F?
*** w57 11/15 p. 685 Jehovah’s Helper and the New World Society ***"And I will request the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever, the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it. You know it, because it remains with you and is in you." (John 14:16, 17; also AT,ED,Ro) "When the helper arrives that I will send you from the Father, the spirit of the truth which proceeds from the Father, that one will bear witness about me." (John 15:26; also ED,AS) "This Jesus God resurrected, of which fact we are all witnesses. Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear."—Acts 2:32, 33; also AV,RS,Mo,Dy, etc.
"Nevertheless, I am telling you the truth. It is for your benefit I am going away. For if I do not go away, the helper will by no means come to you; but if I do go my way, I will send him to you.
*** w81 11/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***Jehovah God provides holy spirit for his faithful worshipers according to their needs and circumstances. When, because of the huge number of people involved, Moses needed assistance, God directed that 70 qualified older men be selected to help. Jehovah told Moses: "I shall have to take away some of the spiritthat is upon you and place it upon them, and they will have to help you in carrying the load of the people." (Num. 11:16, 17) Now, that does not mean that Moses would thereafter be inadequately supplied with holy spirit, having a spirit deficiency. No, God would provide for Moses and for the 70 assistants ample spirit for them to handle the tasks before them. Similarly, Elisha as well as the "sons of the prophets" would have sufficient holy spirit to carry out their duties and to face the coming tests or trials.
*** w06 7/15 p. 20 par. 6 Focus on the Goodness of Jehovah’s Organization ***The ‘faithful slave’ is represented by the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a small group of spirit-anointed men serving at the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Brooklyn, New York. The Governing Body appoints experienced servants of Jehovah to serve at branch offices that supervise the activities of over 98,000 congregations earth wide. Men who meet the Biblical requirements are appointed as elders and ministerial servants in these congregations. (1 Timothy 3:1-9, 12, 13) The elders take the lead and lovingly shepherd the flock of God in their care. What a blessing it is to be part of that flock and to experience the love and unity that exist among "the whole association of brothers"!—1 Peter 2:17; 5:2, 3.
i guess jesus was confused, or maybe he was downsized after the fact.........(?)***w571/1p.23par.9"FeedMyLittleSheep"***
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Paul, an experienced overseer, entreated his brother overseers, saying: "Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son]." (Acts 20:28, NW) Here, too, the emphasis is that an overseer must be a shepherd; he has a very responsible position. He must ‘feed my sheep.’ Today not only do overseers include those of individual congregations but there are overseers appointed to serve many congregations. According to the annual earthwide report of activities of Jehovah’s witnesses (see country-by-country chart, pages 24-26), they are seen to be organized into 16,240 congregations. Under the Society’s arrangement, 1,107 circuit servants oversee those congregations. Still other experienced and trained men, district servants, oversee the circuit servants and congregation servants. Of these, 152 have been appointed to serve in different parts of the world. Today these appointed overseers—branch servants, zone servants, district servants, circuit servants, congregation servants—may not look upon their responsibilities lightly.—Ex. 18:25, 26; Deut. 1:9-15; Eph. 4:11-16, NW; Mic. 5:2-5, AS.
Jehovah - GB - BO's - ZO's - DO's - CO's - Elders - MS's - Baptized Bro's - Baptized Sis' - Unbaptized Pubs - Scum
i've had 3 different jws tell me this over the past few weeks.
basically their thinking is non-jws are not happy and when they appear to be its not real, its not a true happiness.
according to them, non-jws use drugs, alcohol and wild sex to make themselves happy.
I sat at Mcdonalds one day and watched a 12 year old boy sit down with his father at their table and say "Grace" before eating his meal. A "worldly" boy says grace?
Yes, beleive it or not some "worldly" poeple believe in god and have morals. I have been to weddings where the B&G both waited for marriage. This is so impossible for JW's to even contemplate because they are told daily that the world around them is pure filfth, that EVERYONE is unhappy and debaucherous.
I KNOW JW's that have swung, (cough* Tilsonburg ONT. right now!) I KNOW JW's that cheated only to get DF'd, get married and reinstated toghether. I KNOW JW's that have killed themselves - even a CO. I KNOW tons of JW's that are depressed and WHO DOESNT KNOW a dozen JW's that arent alcoholics? I KNOW an elder that recently died from alcoholism at 48 years of age.
yes, JW's are so happy..... everyone else is just faking it.
is it just me or does it seem like a major tribulation brewing?
yes, another,
like the tech bubble at the end of the nineties,
the energy crisis of the 70's,
WW2,
the depression,
shall i go on? Hmmmm... i wonder when the next one will be?
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Dan! I am so sorry! Trust me, you are in my thoughts and those of so many here!
Keep coming back and checking in with us, please.
Still.........
according to cnnmoney, so, will the elders receive some more new light from the almighty saying that they are going to reinstate the weekly book study after their new light announcement this summer saying it was being done away with due to the price of gas ?
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She said that there have been more changes this past year in the organization than she's ever seen. I told her that is not one of the signs that Jesus said to look for in Matthew 24.
good reply, very good....
