when i discussed this with some ex-jws in the past, they have pointed out to me that the following is not done in actual pracrice.
of course it is not done in practrice ... that is why i referred to it as a "secret" because elders do not normally disclose such information, either because they fear its effect, or because they have not thoroughly paid attention to the "pay attention" book.
in this post, i am not arguing about actual practice ... rather what the undisclosed, withheld, secretive information is ... and how being armed may allow """some""" jws to relax their conscience.. a secret that elders will not openly tell you.
its a good point. if you were getting in trouble for hangin out with DF family you could use this to help you but the new "gods love" book has a whole appendix on DFIng and it is pretty blunt about shunning even family members living in the home.
Only famly living in home withyou and enven then its limited....cult.....
Doofdaddy said: This has left me with an acute ability to read people's inner truth (despite what they tell me).
so doofdaddy, what do your abilities tell you about JW's when they walk in the room?
i wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .
in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !
" it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.
w0412/15p.10FriendsofGodinthe“FriendlyIslands” (family needs take precedance)
Although poor materially, this man and his wife used to make a sizable financial contribution when their names were called out at church during an annual fund-raising service. A Witness who had previously visited had invited the husband to open his Bible and read1 Timothy 5:8. The apostle Paul wrote: “If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” This Bible principle touched the husband’s heart. He realized that by acceding to the church’s excessive demands, he was failing to provide the basic needs of his family. At the next annual collection service, although he had the money in his pocket, he could not forget 1 Timothy 5:8. When his name was called out, he courageously informed the priest that his family’s needs took precedence. As a result, the couple was publicly belittled and berated by the church elders.
***w075/1p.21par.9DoNotPutApartWhatGodHasYokedTogether ***But having weighty congregation responsibilities does not mean that a husband should neglect fulfilling his God-given obligations as a family head. (1 Timothy 3:5, 12) Commenting on this matter, some years ago this journal made the following statement: “In accordance with Biblical requirements, it can be said that ‘shepherding begins at home.’ If an elder neglects his family, he could jeopardize his appointment.” Clearly, it is imperative that you provide for your wife—physically, emotionally and, most important of all, spiritually.
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i wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .
in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !
" it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.
UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it wont post properly!!!!!!!!!
i wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .
in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !
" it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.
w04 12/15 p. 10 Friends of God in the “Friendly Islands” (family needs take precedance)
Although poor materially, this man and his wife used to make a sizable financial contribution when their names were called out at church during an annual fund-raising service. A Witness who had previously visited had invited the husband to open his Bible and read 1 Timothy 5:8. The apostle Paul wrote: “If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” This Bible principle touched the husband’s heart. He realized that by acceding to the church’s excessive demands, he was failing to provide the basic needs of his family. At the next annual collection service, although he had the money in his pocket, he could not forget 1 Timothy 5:8. When his name was called out, he courageously informed the priest that his family’s needs took precedence. As a result, the couple was publicly belittled and berated by the church elders.
*** lv pp. 220-221 The Bible’s View on Divorce and Separation (Gods Love Book) (ditch the family and serve the WTS) In certain extreme situations, some Christians have decided to separate from or divorce a marriage mate even though that one has not committed fornication. In such a case, the Bible stipulates that the departing one “remain unmarried or else make up again.” (1 Corinthians 7:11) Such a Christian is not free to pursue a third party with a view to remarriage. (Matthew 5:32) Consider here a few exceptional situations that some have viewed as a basis for separation. (oh thats not a hint to R&F that cling to every word the WTS says)
Willful nonsupport. A family may become destitute, lacking the basic essentials of life, because the husband fails to provide for them, although being able to do so. The Bible states: “If anyone does not provide for . . . members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8) If such a man refuses to change his ways, the wife would have to decide whether she needs to protect her welfare and that of her children by obtaining a legal separation. Of course, Christian elders should give careful consideration to an accusation that a Christian refuses to support his family. Refusal to care for one’s family may result in disfellowshipping.
Extreme physical abuse. An abusive spouse may act so violently that the abused mate’s health and even life are in danger. If the abusive spouse is a Christian, congregation elders should investigate the charges. Fits of anger and a practice of violent behavior are grounds for disfellowshipping.—Galatians 5:19-21.
Absolute endangerment of spiritual life. A spouse may constantly try to make it impossible for the mate to pursue true worship or may even try to force that mate to break God’s (WTS) commands in some way. In such a case, the threatened mate would have to decide whether the only way to “obey God as ruler rather than men” is to obtain a legal separation.
*** w07 5/1 p. 21 par. 9 Do Not Put Apart What God Has Yoked Together ***But having weighty congregation responsibilities does not mean that a husband should neglect fulfilling his God-given obligations as a family head. (1 Timothy 3:5, 12) Commenting on this matter, some years ago this journal made the following statement: “In accordance with Biblical requirements, it can be said that ‘shepherding begins at home.’ If an elder neglects his family, he could jeopardize his appointment.” Clearly, it is imperative that you provide for your wife—physically, emotionally and, most important of all, spiritually.
i wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .
in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !
" it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.
Believe it or not she will actually think this article was witten just at the right moment to help her decide who to choose, me or God.. WT.
oh that always amazes me when dubs say that. its so true! The WTS has trained dubs to think that way, after all - thats how Jehovah helps them and answers their prayers, through the WTS !
well- this sad news of the girl being murdered and raped in tracy , california motivated me today to leave ap news releases of the wt child abuse out of court settlements of 16 jw victims in car windshields today of jw's who had gone out in field service.
for what it's worth i went to 3 different kingdom halls in 2 towns.
left about 8 on different cars at one kingdom hall, and 5 at another and 7 at another.. you just never know what may happen.
unfortunately they will be in the garbage faster than it took you to put them out there. I remember when i was a blind believer. we all felt like throwing out those apostate pamphlets under our wipers gave us a litte extra HS taht day!
did you have enough of boasting, and decided to walk out?.
that's what happened to me during this week's bs about how to "treat the disfellowshipped"?.
i just picked up my bag and stormed out...... will i get called into the back room?.
good for you GB! I was disgusted by that study.
the week before i read ahead while i was on microphones. I wanted to scream into the microphones that this is a sick twisted cult of closet masterbators!
i think i posted on here that i went to the memorial last week.
my wife's dad has been a jw for over 50 years and has never missed a memorial before.
he has been getting sicker and sicker and his wife the star pioneer still does nothing for him.
. I, too remember when I was younger, the 'elders' or whomever was in charge - discussing amongst themselves - taking the emblems to sick or elderly folks. But - I seem to remember it being done that evening... NOT 30 days later
I do remember that there is some biblical precedant where one would partake 30 days later if they could not at the memorial. This really does ring a bell....
my brother-in-law has been staying with me all week and his strange views of life have been driving me crazy.
just yesterday he informed me that c.t.
russell predicted global warming.
nice catch mary! how many JW's would follow their claim of Russels global warming prophecy with how this is Jehovah preparing the earth to be a paradise again and that in the meantime this will help global commerce. what a benefit!
